Antifa?

[Bi_3]

You're right. The real choice is capitalism, communism, or fascism (which is becoming linked to the first option these days). I don't want any of them, to be honest.

I meant the false choice between the alt-right (nazism) and antifa (Marxism), but yeah.

[96583UP]

all this quibbling about human forms of political organization is a waste of time

we should all be planning for the robot overlord issue instead

this conversation will be a luxury in 50 years

gonna have some probe up my ass debiting bitcoins from me depending on what i think about

the only probes i want up my ass are probes that i put up my ass

and not because of some robot feudal lord locking me into wage slavery

i only want human feudal lords that hide behind representative government officials that lock me into wage slavery

this is a survival issue we are going to have to deal with

discretionary probes for leisure; or non-discretionary probes for control

WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON

[Kaius]

I know which side I'm on.

[BurtReynolds]

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[LoathedVermin72]

yeah

[Norah]

You're right. The real choice is capitalism, communism, or fascism (which is becoming linked to the first option these days). I don't want any of them, to be honest.

Except most on the left seem to be advocating for democratic socialism in the modern, northern european tradition. Not soviet or chinese style communism or latin american despotism disguised as socialism.

[Norah]

[LoathedVermin72]

You're right. The real choice is capitalism, communism, or fascism (which is becoming linked to the first option these days). I don't want any of them, to be honest.

Except most on the left seem to be advocating for democratic socialism in the modern, northern european tradition. Not soviet or chinese style communism or latin american despotism disguised as socialism.

Yeah, you're right. I kinda regretted that post as soon as I made it.

[Bi_3]

You're right. The real choice is capitalism, communism, or fascism (which is becoming linked to the first option these days). I don't want any of them, to be honest.

Except most on the left seem to be advocating for democratic socialism in the modern, northern european tradition. Not soviet or chinese style communism or latin american despotism disguised as socialism.

I always laugh when you post this silliness. The left wants culturally homogeneous white Christian monarchies with high tax rates?

[LoathedVermin72]

Yes that's exactly it

[Norah]

"We're fighting for universal health care, criminal justice reform, and economic justice!"

lol, look at those idiots who want to be a monarchy

[Bi_3]

Yes that's exactly it

What is the truth then? None of those countries have socialist economic systems. One might think it's just that people want the incredible benefits that capitalism brings but don't want to be associated with such a gauche and oppressive term so they made up some imaginary mid point where they can reconcile their competing desires.

[Norah]

You're right, workers rights and universal health care are just a figment of peoples imagination.

[Norah]

a socialist economic system is just capitalism with strong rules in place so you can't fuck people over to better your bottom line

[LoathedVermin72]

See chud' post. We can still be a capitalist society and have universal healthcare. We can still be a free society and punch Neo-Nazis. We can still be capitalists while working to reform our justice system and economic structure. It's not all or none.

[Norah]

And an acknowledgement that some industries shouldn't be run so that making a profit is the primary goal. Like we do with public schools.

[Bi_3]

a socialist economic system is just capitalism with strong rules in place so you can't fuck people over to better your bottom line

I am pretty sure that is not correct. I also have yet to see an Antifa goon scream anything about universal healthcare while they are beating random people and setting shit on fire.

[LoathedVermin72]

a socialist economic system is just capitalism with strong rules in place so you can't fuck people over to better your bottom line

I am pretty sure that is not correct. I also have yet to see an Antifa goon scream anything about universal healthcare while they are beating random people and setting shit on fire.

Random people at a white supremacist rally?

[simple schoolboy]

a socialist economic system is just capitalism with strong rules in place so you can't fuck people over to better your bottom line

I am pretty sure that is not correct. I also have yet to see an Antifa goon scream anything about universal healthcare while they are beating random people and setting shit on fire.

Random people at a white supremacist rally?

Every rally is a white supremacist rally, apparently. Do you know who organized the Berkely and SF rallies?

[LoathedVermin72]

If they're Trump supporters who got beaten up, I honestly don't really give a shit at this point.