new (old) song: Let it Ride

[B]

I moved from It's Alright to Meh. I'm glad they scrapped this one. Eddie's got his super whiny voice on for this one.

[digster]

Thats definitely a big part of it, but I think they could get away with a lot of the production glossiness if the underlying songs had more meat on them. They've seemingly had a great desire to trim the fat and simplify many of their new songs. I like the fat. Some people don't like the somewhat meandering, jammy side of the band, but I love it.

I feel like this song could be a single. It's not The Fixer, but it's certainly more catchy and accessible than some of the stuff they've released over the years.

[stip]

These feel unmastered to me. I really wonder how much of people's issues with later day pearl jam really come down to production--issues with how the songs feel due to their presentation, rather than the writing itself.

I don't really make a distinction. A song is what a song sounds like. Not what the sheet looks like. At least to me. Now I know what you mean of course, so would I like Life Wasted, Unemployable, The Fixer or WWS with a different production? Probably not, unless it was produced in a way that makes the lyrics unhearable.

that's true, and the song is the song. But there were more than a few comments somewhere in this avalanche where people were remarking on how great they tracks felt/sounded (the 5 guys playing in a room) that I think reflects the rawer, unmastered feel of these songs. I can very easily imagine people soured on backspacer's production, for instance, enjoying the unmastered versions of those songs more. Will they become their favorite songs? Of course not. Will it make a difference? it might.

Yup.

In my limited time here over the years, I think RM is known for it's hipster-style remarks. I think that's what you're getting at and I agree. If it's "not released", there's more incentive here to like it because that's the hipster thing to do

to clarify, that was definitely not my point. It's not that these songs were rare that matters. They feel rawer or unprocessed/unmastered. So you can hear the actual song in a purer form. And I think that's attractive to a lot of people--especially since the mastering on the last two albums (of which I am one of the most, if not the most, vocal defenders) does leave something to be desired.

Thats definitely a big part of it, but I think they could get away with a lot of the production glossiness if the underlying songs had more meat on them. They've seemingly had a great desire to trim the fat and simplify many of their new songs. I like the fat. Some people don't like the somewhat meandering, jammy side of the band, but I love it.

no doubt.

[stip]

Thats definitely a big part of it, but I think they could get away with a lot of the production glossiness if the underlying songs had more meat on them. They've seemingly had a great desire to trim the fat and simplify many of their new songs. I like the fat. Some people don't like the somewhat meandering, jammy side of the band, but I love it.

I feel like this song could be a single. It's not The Fixer, but it's certainly more catchy and accessible than some of the stuff they've released over the years.

really? I've listened to this thing like 10 times today and for all this songs strengths or weaknesses catchiness is far from the list. Truth be told I can't remember how it goes until it starts.

[digster]

Don't know what to tell you. That whole ending part is definitely catchy, at least to me.

[stip]

I like the ending too--best part of the song. I just don't hear catchy or accessible here. I'm not saying that as a critique, mind you.

[digster]

Fair enough...I mean, something's catchy or not to a person. I just think if I was able to remember that part after hearing it once or twice it could certainly have that effect on others.

[Thejambi]

Fair enough...I mean, something's catchy or not to a person. I just think if I was able to remember that part after hearing it once or twice it could certainly have that effect on others.

It's the groove man. The groove!

[southp]

I feel the same... when I try to remember how it goes, I get this....

Let me riiiiiiddde!!

[stip]

that's a good song.

[southp]

that's a good song.

Yup. I liked that band for a while.

[stip]

me too. They really fell off a cliff.

[BurtReynolds]

I keep thinking of the Ryan Adams song.

[BurtReynolds]

Thats definitely a big part of it, but I think they could get away with a lot of the production glossiness if the underlying songs had more meat on them. They've seemingly had a great desire to trim the fat and simplify many of their new songs. I like the fat. Some people don't like the somewhat meandering, jammy side of the band, but I love it.

I feel like this song could be a single. It's not The Fixer, but it's certainly more catchy and accessible than some of the stuff they've released over the years.

really? I've listened to this thing like 10 times today and for all this songs strengths or weaknesses catchiness is far from the list. Truth be told I can't remember how it goes until it starts.

I doubt it would go anywhere as a single, but I could say that about most of these songs.

I always thought severed hand is a no brainer single. it was probably meant to be. If they wanted a hit, that would have been big on alt radio. I think Ed's politics got the better of him.

[stip]

Cold Confession is great, but it sure isn't designed for the radio.

[Strat]

Cold Confession is great, but it sure isn't designed for the radio.

THAT IS A GOOD THING!

[stip]

it's just a thing.

[Jorge]

It is a good thing.

[warehouse]

not that radio airplay is bad, but designing songs for the radio is bad. actually, its usually terrible.

[verb_to_trust]

The radio barely exists anymore. It surely doesn't exist as the medium at which a piece of modern day pearl jam 'punchiness' would be optimally unleashed onto the salivating masses. They have this thing called the internet, guys....