Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?

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Tried listening to Avocado on spotify now, and also matched up to my previously stored songs on my phone. Couldn’t hear any difference.
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pearl jam sucks now
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Hey trag.
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trag had been on the outer realms of the RM whirlpool, and is now getting pulled back into the vortex
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pearl jam sucks now
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pearl jam sucks now
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tragabigzanda wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:trag had been on the outer realms of the RM whirlpool, and is now getting pulled back into the vortex
Are you comparing me to a turd, good sir?
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So I've been trying to rip the 'Mastered for Spotify' version of Avocado using the desktop version (with a premium trial subscription for 320kbps) and had all sorts of problems due to the way Spotify caches tracks onto your computer (and possibly against your profile for other devices it seems?) for listening later. Live versions mixed in with louder (old mastering?) and quieter (new I assume?) versions of the album versions - I've wasted a lot of time clearing caches, uninstalling Spotify, reinstalling, using a different account - it's a freaking nightmate :evil:

Anyway, I think I've managed to get the 'new' master playing from start to finish now, however Come Back doesn't seem to have the alternate lyrics reported a few pages back:
lecherouslittlestump wrote: The songs are definitely updated, there's even a lyric change on Come Back. "From where ever you are, come back" is now "From the skies up above, come back"
Can anyone confirm that there is in fact an alternate lyric in the new version? Or is this perhaps being confused with a live version? Lecherouslittlestump? Spenno? Bueller?

If anyone else is confident they have the new version playing on their desktop app and wants to have a go at ripping to wav, please feel free to try and report back your results (I'm using Replay Media Catcher).
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I take the position that it’s always best to presume lecherouslittlestump is trolling.
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Oh, good to know :thumbsup:

Hey look at this article - is it possible that this isn't a new master as such, but just a new normalization setting?

http://productionadvice.co.uk/spotify-reduced-loudness/
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Thank you Spotify.
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pearl jam sucks now
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tragabigzanda wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:Oh, good to know :thumbsup:

Hey look at this article - is it possible that this isn't a new master as such, but just a new normalization setting?

http://productionadvice.co.uk/spotify-reduced-loudness/
No, this doesn't explain why a brittle, overly compressed album suddenly sounds warmer and more dynamic.
Right. They had to get this from somewhere.

Triple thumbs up for all the legwork trying to capture the album, though. It would be a fucking drag if it went away on us.
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ridleybradout wrote:So I've been trying to rip the 'Mastered for Spotify' version of Avocado using the desktop version (with a premium trial subscription for 320kbps) and had all sorts of problems due to the way Spotify caches tracks onto your computer (and possibly against your profile for other devices it seems?) for listening later. Live versions mixed in with louder (old mastering?) and quieter (new I assume?) versions of the album versions - I've wasted a lot of time clearing caches, uninstalling Spotify, reinstalling, using a different account - it's a freaking nightmate :evil:

Anyway, I think I've managed to get the 'new' master playing from start to finish now, however Come Back doesn't seem to have the alternate lyrics reported a few pages back:
lecherouslittlestump wrote: The songs are definitely updated, there's even a lyric change on Come Back. "From where ever you are, come back" is now "From the skies up above, come back"
Can anyone confirm that there is in fact an alternate lyric in the new version? Or is this perhaps being confused with a live version? Lecherouslittlestump? Spenno? Bueller?

If anyone else is confident they have the new version playing on their desktop app and wants to have a go at ripping to wav, please feel free to try and report back your results (I'm using Replay Media Catcher).
Keep us posted, would love to hear this when ready. :nice:
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same :)
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ridleybradout wrote:So I've been trying to rip the 'Mastered for Spotify' version of Avocado using the desktop version (with a premium trial subscription for 320kbps) and had all sorts of problems due to the way Spotify caches tracks onto your computer (and possibly against your profile for other devices it seems?) for listening later. Live versions mixed in with louder (old mastering?) and quieter (new I assume?) versions of the album versions - I've wasted a lot of time clearing caches, uninstalling Spotify, reinstalling, using a different account - it's a freaking nightmate :evil:

Anyway, I think I've managed to get the 'new' master playing from start to finish now, however Come Back doesn't seem to have the alternate lyrics reported a few pages back:
lecherouslittlestump wrote: The songs are definitely updated, there's even a lyric change on Come Back. "From where ever you are, come back" is now "From the skies up above, come back"
Can anyone confirm that there is in fact an alternate lyric in the new version? Or is this perhaps being confused with a live version? Lecherouslittlestump? Spenno? Bueller?

If anyone else is confident they have the new version playing on their desktop app and wants to have a go at ripping to wav, please feel free to try and report back your results (I'm using Replay Media Catcher).

i do not hear a lyric change in "come back." i haven't listened to these albums in a long time, especially through spotify, but i am able to capture them with Replay Music 5 alongside a Spotify premium account. i will send you a PM when i finish recording.
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GUYS THERE IS NO LYRIC CHANGE.
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