The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

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I feel like this is my fault. I didn't engage trag this morning on the zoo thing, so all he had left was to do this. I'm sorry, everyone.
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Just never confide in Trag on anything. Ever.
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Oh I'm not even gonna read the last five pages.
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I also skipped them
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i skimmed them
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I spoke with my wife about this and she thinks Gwyneth is the devil
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Rangi Guy wrote:I spoke with my wife about this and she thinks Gwyneth is the devil
tell her i said :wave:
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I don't know about devil, but she is a lunatic.
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BurtReynolds wrote:Oh I'm not even gonna read the last five pages.
Great choice. What a jumbled mess of an argument trag was trying to push.
cutuphalfdead wrote:Your argument would hold a lot more water if we didn't live in a society that consistently punishes women who come forward about sexual assault. Creating a world that punishes them for coming forward, and then putting the moral responsibility on their shoulders to do so anyway, is absurd.
solid end to trags argument, but I doubt he's finished yet.
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tragabigzanda wrote:You guys are absurd. Sometimes being a good person means making a difficult choice, like the one between protecting your friend's feelings and protecting other women from rape. And I'm not even saying that HAS to be the path taken; just that it may hold moral merit. Your unwillingness to see that, and to equate any sort of questioning with victim blaming makes you look like one-dimensional caricatures of the liberal/feminist men you strive to be.
And I would argue that your inability to see that we aren't doing that by any stretch makes you look like a tone def, ignorant, misogynist at best.

There absolutely should be a conversation about how victims of abuse should or should not speak and about processing their abuse and the best way for us to support and help those people. That is a valuable conversation. I haven't seen anyone here argue otherwise.
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Rangi Guy wrote:I spoke with my wife about this and she thinks Gwyneth is the devil
She would look good in a red dress.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:Your argument would hold a lot more water if we didn't live in a society that consistently punishes women who come forward about sexual assault. Creating a world that punishes them for coming forward, and then putting the moral responsibility on their shoulders to do so anyway, is absurd.
Punishing and/or discrediting/demonizing them, yes. Well said.
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A lynch mob is still a lynch mob, even when its target is guilty.
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Is this seriously happening? Do they really think any vets will answer?

Presidential Executive Order Amending Executive Order 13223

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-of ... rder-13223
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Steve Bannon is speaking.
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McParadigm wrote:Steve Bannon is speaking.
He could make a fortune as the "before" on a proactiv infomercial.
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Trump declassifying JFK assassination report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/tr ... 4a00d93266
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He's played a bloody blinder getting everyone to forget about his tax returns.
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