I didn't see the part about Orphans. I'm officially SUPER pumped now. I need Orphans in the worst way.Strat wrote:Yea, i need Orphans. I am glad that is happening mostly.Simple Torture wrote:The announcement also included info that there'd be an Orphans vinyl repress in 2018, which is great. I have all of those records, so the only one that really piqued my interest was Real Gone.
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It's cool if this makes these albums more readily available to the vinyl folks, but to my ears none of these albums need any work sonically. The ones I'd really like remasters of are the 80's Island albums -- the CD versions anyway sound flat, airy, and too quiet.
I have a bad feeling that a "Real Gone" "remix" is going to be an attempt to clean up an album that was widely regarded as being somewhat harsh on the ears, which is a shame considering what a defining element of that album that production style is.
I have a bad feeling that a "Real Gone" "remix" is going to be an attempt to clean up an album that was widely regarded as being somewhat harsh on the ears, which is a shame considering what a defining element of that album that production style is.
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These remasters are available on Spotify
Edit: No Real Gone though, and not sure about Orphans, it does say (Remastered), but Mule Variations, Blood Money & Alice have the original and the remastered available, whereas Orphans only has the remastered available.
Edit: No Real Gone though, and not sure about Orphans, it does say (Remastered), but Mule Variations, Blood Money & Alice have the original and the remastered available, whereas Orphans only has the remastered available.
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Not Real Gone, though. That's the only one I'm interested in because it's being remixed.contamination wrote:These remasters are available on Spotify
Edit: No Real Gone though, and not sure about Orphans, it does say (Remastered) Mule Variations, Blood Money & Alice have the original and the remastered available, but Orphans only the remastered.
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was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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I understand nothing about recording process, but somehow listening to that album makes me feel distant, like I am not in the audience but watching the gig from the lobby or something. It sounds like they'd placed one mic somewhere in the back of the room, there's just too much "space" in the sound. And the Tom tales could have been between the songs. I do love the version of Dirt In The Ground though.Strat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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Man, I love "Glitter and Doom." I had no idea people took issue with the way it sounds.
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Fannin Street is fantasticcontamination wrote:I understand nothing about recording process, but somehow listening to that album makes me feel distant, like I am not in the audience but watching the gig from the lobby or something. It sounds like they'd placed one mic somewhere in the back of the room, there's just too much "space" in the sound. And the Tom tales could have been between the songs. I do love the version of Dirt In The Ground though.Strat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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What a great song.Strat wrote:Fannin Street is fantasticcontamination wrote:I understand nothing about recording process, but somehow listening to that album makes me feel distant, like I am not in the audience but watching the gig from the lobby or something. It sounds like they'd placed one mic somewhere in the back of the room, there's just too much "space" in the sound. And the Tom tales could have been between the songs. I do love the version of Dirt In The Ground though.Strat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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Yeah there are some lovely songs and performances, my problem is just with the sound. Falling Downdurdencommatyler wrote:What a great song.Strat wrote:Fannin Street is fantasticcontamination wrote:I understand nothing about recording process, but somehow listening to that album makes me feel distant, like I am not in the audience but watching the gig from the lobby or something. It sounds like they'd placed one mic somewhere in the back of the room, there's just too much "space" in the sound. And the Tom tales could have been between the songs. I do love the version of Dirt In The Ground though.Strat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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I can't weigh in on Glitter & Doom as I've still never listened to it. But I like all the studio versions of the songs we're talking about.contamination wrote:Yeah there are some lovely songs and performances, my problem is just with the sound. Falling Downdurdencommatyler wrote:What a great song.Strat wrote:Fannin Street is fantasticcontamination wrote:I understand nothing about recording process, but somehow listening to that album makes me feel distant, like I am not in the audience but watching the gig from the lobby or something. It sounds like they'd placed one mic somewhere in the back of the room, there's just too much "space" in the sound. And the Tom tales could have been between the songs. I do love the version of Dirt In The Ground though.Strat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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What is this, now? Exsqueeze me? baking powder?durdencommatyler wrote:I can't weigh in on Glitter & Doom as I've still never listened to it. But I like all the studio versions of the songs we're talking about.contamination wrote:Yeah there are some lovely songs and performances, my problem is just with the sound. Falling Downdurdencommatyler wrote:What a great song.Strat wrote:Fannin Street is fantasticcontamination wrote:I understand nothing about recording process, but somehow listening to that album makes me feel distant, like I am not in the audience but watching the gig from the lobby or something. It sounds like they'd placed one mic somewhere in the back of the room, there's just too much "space" in the sound. And the Tom tales could have been between the songs. I do love the version of Dirt In The Ground though.Strat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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I just like having something saved up. I binged his catalog so quickly that it's nice to know there's something out there of his that I haven't consumed.Strat wrote:What is this, now? Exsqueeze me? baking powder?durdencommatyler wrote:I can't weigh in on Glitter & Doom as I've still never listened to it. But I like all the studio versions of the songs we're talking about.contamination wrote:Yeah there are some lovely songs and performances, my problem is just with the sound. Falling Downdurdencommatyler wrote:What a great song.Strat wrote:Fannin Street is fantasticcontamination wrote:I understand nothing about recording process, but somehow listening to that album makes me feel distant, like I am not in the audience but watching the gig from the lobby or something. It sounds like they'd placed one mic somewhere in the back of the room, there's just too much "space" in the sound. And the Tom tales could have been between the songs. I do love the version of Dirt In The Ground though.Strat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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yea but its time....durdencommatyler wrote:I just like having something saved up. I binged his catalog so quickly that it's nice to know there's something out there of his that I haven't consumed.Strat wrote:What is this, now? Exsqueeze me? baking powder?durdencommatyler wrote:I can't weigh in on Glitter & Doom as I've still never listened to it. But I like all the studio versions of the songs we're talking about.contamination wrote:Yeah there are some lovely songs and performances, my problem is just with the sound. Falling Downdurdencommatyler wrote:What a great song.Strat wrote:Fannin Street is fantasticcontamination wrote:I understand nothing about recording process, but somehow listening to that album makes me feel distant, like I am not in the audience but watching the gig from the lobby or something. It sounds like they'd placed one mic somewhere in the back of the room, there's just too much "space" in the sound. And the Tom tales could have been between the songs. I do love the version of Dirt In The Ground though.Strat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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I mean, i know its not essential but....Some great versions and I was at this tour so 
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For me it's something about how his voice sounds. Compressed to the point of weightlessnessStrat wrote:Yea i wasn't much of a fan. Sounds quite muddy on vinyl.contamination wrote:I also hated it, and you're right the remastered version is there too.Strat wrote:was it McP that hated the mastering and mixing of GLitter and Doom? I believe so. McP, get your hands in there and tell us if there is any improvement.
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This Amazon reviewer put it well
Unfortunately, the entire album sounds like it was bootlegged by an audience member. Tom's vocals are so flat and full of low end as to be unintelligible and, at times, distorted. As for the rest of the band, I can't bring myself to believe that the instruments were actually tracked seperately, as they bleed into each other so heavily you often can't discern anything more than the general harmonic structure of the tune. When anyone solos, it only makes what's already a piss poor job all the more painstakingly obvious. In fact, the applause and shouts of the audience often sound clearer and more distinct than the music itself, to the extent of sometimes drowning it out, lending even more credence to my impression that the show was recorded by an external source rather than a direct soundboard.
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