The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

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get your pardon pens ready
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durdencommatyler wrote:yup
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Pretty accurate.
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But I mean, if this administration took those steps and this congress and justice department accepted and were silent, could they ever afford to turn over power again?
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lol twitter banned roger stone
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I have to imagine that a guy like Mueller is playing a long game here and knows full well pardons may come into play. I’m not worried.
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meatwad wrote:I have to imagine that a guy like Mueller is playing a long game here and knows full well pardons may come into play. I’m not worried.
My understanding is that's why he's partnered with the NY AG: because the POTUS can't pardon offenses charged by the state.
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Putting a €5 bet down that Trump at some point declares himself too stupid to stand trial cos he’s stupid and they did it and he didn’t know what was happening.
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McParadigm wrote:Fox News is seriously gonna ride this train all the way to hell, huh
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McParadigm wrote:
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Buzzfeed suggests it’s manafort financial activity from 2011-2014.
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would makes sense

and hopefully will correspond with an announcement from the NY AG
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96583UP wrote:would makes sense

and hopefully will correspond with an announcement from the NY AG
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McParadigm wrote:
96583UP wrote:would makes sense

and hopefully will correspond with an announcement from the NY AG
Lord yes
I read somewhere yesterday (WaPo? The Hill? Can't remember, but it was a legit outlet) that one of the NY state attorneys with whom Mueller has partnered has a history of bringing charges against family members as a way of compelling the principle to start cooperating; the article suggested that family members of both Manafort and Flynn could be charged on Monday.
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Not sure how that leads to charges against Trump though.
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Bi_3 wrote:Not sure how that leads to charges against Trump though.
In theory, if Manafort or Flynn have been reticent to implicate Trump, the fear of seeing an immediate family member in prison could sway them.
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It's still very possible that Donald Trump is not in direct legal danger, and won't be. But his children and son in law appear to be a very different story, which would explain his rage and which potentially has/will open him up to obstructive decisions.

If Jared or Don Junior are in real legal danger, I don't believe he has the personality to standby and do nothing. He will destroy himself or derail the entire experiment to prevent it.
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McParadigm wrote:It's still very possible that Donald Trump is not in direct legal danger, and won't be. But his children and son in law appear to be a very different story, which would explain his rage and which potentially has/will open him up to obstructive decisions.

If Jared or Don Junior are in real legal danger, I don't believe he has the personality to standby and do nothing. He will destroy the world and derail the entire experiment to prevent it.
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