EJ wrote:I still don't love Riot Act. There's more depth to that album than what follows, but its not the most enjoyable listen from start to finish for me.
I had the reverse effect with Riot Act. At first i loved it, after a few years i was bored with the weak guitars and Eddie spoken messages.
It did bother me for awhile that the best song was the first song on the album. That's one of my irrational hatred's, I think.
There's several songs I still really like on Riot Act, even really dig Bushleaguer for some reason. But, listening to this album from start to finish is a bit of a slog.
EJ wrote:I still don't love Riot Act. There's more depth to that album than what follows, but its not the most enjoyable listen from start to finish for me.
The thing about RA is that the good songs are really really good and the bad songs are terrible.....Thumbing My Way is possibly the most boring PJ ever, Save You and I am Mine are very bland to me as well and LBC is just lame..."all you need is love" ??? really??...at first i hated Riot Act, especially after the release of Binaural(my 2nd fav PJ album) but since them ive grown to like songs more songs off the album...ghost, green disease, cropduster, help help
dimejinky99 wrote:I always say, and Stip agrees, that albums really only make sense when we have the one that follows.
Riot act was shat on for a long time and now continues to enjoy a renaissance.
Same will be true of Backspacer.
Just watch.
There's no way in hell.
If this was true, wouldn't everyone love S/T by now?
S/T isn't half as bad as this board seems to suggest.
Indeed, it's actually twice as bad.
S/T is a great album.
The guitar work is vastly under appreciated . The main problem is production and clumsy effort all around by Ed. I would love a version of just the instrumentation of that album.
There's the dog. You can't fake that stuff. Confess with your mouth.
dimejinky99 wrote:I always say, and Stip agrees, that albums really only make sense when we have the one that follows.
Riot act was shat on for a long time and now continues to enjoy a renaissance.
Same will be true of Backspacer.
Just watch.
There's no way in hell.
If this was true, wouldn't everyone love S/T by now?
S/T isn't half as bad as this board seems to suggest.
Indeed, it's actually twice as bad.
S/T is a great album.
The guitar work is vastly under appreciated . The main problem is production and clumsy effort all around by Ed. I would love a version of just the instrumentation of that album.
If you haven't already, go get the ST demos off gremmie.net
It made me love ST as of yesterday. You can hear TONS of stuff that isn't there musically on the album. It's wonderful.
Angus wrote:Riot Act is their last great album. But I've loved it since day 1. The (lack of) quality of ST has nothing to do with that.
I don't feel it's the quality of the subsequent record as much as it is having a new group of songs between yourself and the preceding record. New music moves a record past the " this is who they are now" mindset allowing a different mindset in evaluating that older record.
There's the dog. You can't fake that stuff. Confess with your mouth.
dimejinky99 wrote:I always say, and Stip agrees, that albums really only make sense when we have the one that follows.
Riot act was shat on for a long time and now continues to enjoy a renaissance.
Same will be true of Backspacer.
Just watch.
There's no way in hell.
If this was true, wouldn't everyone love S/T by now?
S/T isn't half as bad as this board seems to suggest.
My only point is that what dime was saying about having a record between Backspacer is going to raise it's quality in the eyes of the fanbase here....that clearly didn't happen with S/T. So I don't think that's necessarily true.
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