Weak Guitars on Riot Act? Maybe on a couple songs but Ghost, Half Full, All or None, Help Help have some of Mikes best work...I think RA is one of the best sound PJ albums behind Vitalogy and YieldVinylGuy wrote:I had the reverse effect with Riot Act. At first i loved it, after a few years i was bored with the weak guitars and Eddie spoken messages.EJ wrote:I still don't love Riot Act. There's more depth to that album than what follows, but its not the most enjoyable listen from start to finish for me.
I do love Cant Keep and You Are.
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Yeah, the guitar work in S/T is wonderful. Also, Matt is a beast. Again.
With RA...some of the songs there need more work, specially from Ed. And those guitars...and yeah, its difficult to listen to the whole album without skipping some songs ( im looking at you Crodpduster! and you Get Right)
With RA...some of the songs there need more work, specially from Ed. And those guitars...and yeah, its difficult to listen to the whole album without skipping some songs ( im looking at you Crodpduster! and you Get Right)
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i fuckin LOVE all or none.melonhead4 wrote:Weak Guitars on Riot Act? Maybe on a couple songs but Ghost, Half Full, All or None, Help Help have some of Mikes best work...I think RA is one of the best sound PJ albums behind Vitalogy and YieldVinylGuy wrote:I had the reverse effect with Riot Act. At first i loved it, after a few years i was bored with the weak guitars and Eddie spoken messages.EJ wrote:I still don't love Riot Act. There's more depth to that album than what follows, but its not the most enjoyable listen from start to finish for me.
I do love Cant Keep and You Are.
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Mike did a good job yeah. He is the best thing in Get Right.melonhead4 wrote:Weak Guitars on Riot Act? Maybe on a couple songs but Ghost, Half Full, All or None, Help Help have some of Mikes best work...I think RA is one of the best sound PJ albums behind Vitalogy and YieldVinylGuy wrote:I had the reverse effect with Riot Act. At first i loved it, after a few years i was bored with the weak guitars and Eddie spoken messages.EJ wrote:I still don't love Riot Act. There's more depth to that album than what follows, but its not the most enjoyable listen from start to finish for me.
I do love Cant Keep and You Are.
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Funny that you mention Cropduster. Are you saying the guitars are weak in it? Or you're just bored by it? Pretty sure Mike's been quoted as saying that is one of the most difficult songs to play.VinylGuy wrote:the whole album without skipping some songs ( im looking at you Crodpduster! and you Get Right)
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Kinda both..i think they need another tone maybe? i want more agression from them, specially at the end were you can hear a hint a great fucking song there.EJ wrote:Funny that you mention Cropduster. Are you saying the guitars are weak in it? Or you're just bored by it? Pretty sure Mike's been quoted as saying that is one of the most difficult songs to play.VinylGuy wrote:the whole album without skipping some songs ( im looking at you Crodpduster! and you Get Right)
But mostly im bored by it, its dad´s rock all the way. And those live version from the 03 tour were worse.
Mike said that about Cropduster? are you thinking Evacuation maybe?
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"Cropduster" is the opposite of what people mean when they say "dad rock".
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Nope. He may have said it about Evacuation too, but I'm pretty confident he's said it about Cropduster.VinylGuy wrote:
Mike said that about Cropduster? are you thinking Evacuation maybe?
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Yeah, that's one of the last terms I think of while listening to Cropduster.theplatypus wrote:"Cropduster" is the opposite of what people mean when they say "dad rock".
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Ok, Ok.theplatypus wrote:"Cropduster" is the opposite of what people mean when they say "dad rock".
Weird, i didnt know that...i also dont like the lyrics. RA have some great lines and some of the weakest lines in PJ´s history.EJ wrote:Nope. He may have said it about Evacuation too, but I'm pretty confident he's said it about Cropduster.VinylGuy wrote:
Mike said that about Cropduster? are you thinking Evacuation maybe?
I still remember Eddie´s quote on the PJ20 book about a Michael Stipe conversation he had were Stipe told him to write a great record.
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Who wrote the lyrics to You Are? 
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Both songs are rather... meh.EJ wrote:Nope. He may have said it about Evacuation too, but I'm pretty confident he's said it about Cropduster.VinylGuy wrote:
Mike said that about Cropduster? are you thinking Evacuation maybe?
I'm pretty sure

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I'm not a big fan of the lyrics to "Cropduster", especially the second verse ("daddy's gone up in flames"), but the music is ten kinds of wonderful. That version from last year's Canadian tour... Hamilton, was it?... was really great.
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What does "dad rock" mean?theplatypus wrote:"Cropduster" is the opposite of what people mean when they say "dad rock".

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I hated Cropduster for awhile. I've come a long way on it, really dig it now. The music is pretty fantastic.
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Honestly, it's a dumb term meant to disparage music that is not perceived as "hip" enough. Most people use it to refer to inoffensive MOR type stuff, from what I can tell.Lounge Lizard wrote:What does "dad rock" mean?theplatypus wrote:"Cropduster" is the opposite of what people mean when they say "dad rock".
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4 year pj starvation will do that to you.EJ wrote:I hated Cropduster for awhile. I've come a long way on it, really dig it now. The music is pretty fantastic.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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theplatypus wrote:Honestly, it's a dumb term meant to disparage music that is not perceived as "hip" enough. Most people use it to refer to inoffensive MOR type stuff, from what I can tell.Lounge Lizard wrote:What does "dad rock" mean?theplatypus wrote:"Cropduster" is the opposite of what people mean when they say "dad rock".
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Pretty much this.dimejinky99 wrote:4 year pj starvation will do that to you.EJ wrote:I hated Cropduster for awhile. I've come a long way on it, really dig it now. The music is pretty fantastic.
" OK I LOVE CROPDUSTER I LOVE IT, now please release something"
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It's getting so bad that Eddie thought the crowd at Wrigley wanted to hear Bugs.dimejinky99 wrote:4 year pj starvation will do that to you.EJ wrote:I hated Cropduster for awhile. I've come a long way on it, really dig it now. The music is pretty fantastic.