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dimejinky99 wrote:He’s pretending to lose his mind right?

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He's referring to another Nunes ploy. "Give this information now" will get a lot of attention, or should.
JudicialWatch teased something about bombshell news from an FOIA request about the FBI and DOJ recently. It’s probably hyping whatever non-event that will be.
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What does it mean that we know who Stone's Wikileaks connection was? I guess it invalidates some of his earlier claims, but I don't know what the larger impact is. Maybe it shows his personal leave in danger? Maybe it helps complete the web?

I'm absolutely sure it helps anybody building a legal case...anytime you can put a name and/or a date to an event it is big...but here I'd like more clarity as to how.
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Modern Civil war.


Can the cronies drain the treasury before being indicted?


They should probably hurry.
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It Started as a Tax Cut. Now It Could Change American Life.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/b ... iA2y?amp=1
The tax plan has been marketed by President Trump and Republican leaders as a straightforward if enormous rebate for the masses, a $1.5 trillion package of cuts to spur hiring and economic growth. But as the bill has been rushed through Congress with scant debate, its far broader ramifications have come into focus, revealing a catchall legislative creation that could reshape major areas of American life, from education to health care.

Some of this re-engineering is straight out of the traditional Republican playbook. Corporate taxes, along with those on wealthy Americans, would be slashed on the presumption that when people in penthouses get relief, the benefits flow down to basement tenements.

Some measures are barely connected to the realm of taxation, such as the lifting of a 1954 ban on political activism by churches and the conferring of a new legal right for fetuses in the House bill — both on the wish list of the evangelical right.

With a potentially far-reaching dimension, elements in both the House and Senate bills could constrain the ability of states and local governments to levy their own taxes, pressuring them to limit spending on health care, education, public transportation and social services. In their longstanding battle to shrink government, Republicans have found in the tax bill a vehicle to broaden the fight beyond Washington.

The result is a behemoth piece of legislation that could widen American economic inequality while diminishing the power of local communities to marshal relief for vulnerable people — especially in high-tax states like California and New York, which, not coincidentally, tend to vote Democratic.

All of this is taking shape at such extraordinary velocity, absent the usual analyses and hearings, that even the most savvy Washington lobbyist cannot be fully certain of the implications.

“There’s a Christmas-tree aspect to the bill,” said C. Eugene Steuerle, a Treasury official during the Reagan administration and now a senior fellow at the Urban Institute. As an example, he cited the provisions in the House bill designed to appeal to the religious right.

“People want to add certain things, and if they don’t cost a lot, it’s a way to buy in agreement,” Mr. Steuerle said.

By 2027, people making $40,000 to $50,000 would pay a combined $5.3 billion more in taxes, while the group earning $1 million or more would get a $5.8 billion cut, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation and the Congressional Budget Office.

In a recent University of Chicago survey of 38 prominent economists across the ideological spectrum, only one said the proposed tax cuts would yield substantial economic growth. Unanimously, the economists said the tax cuts would add to the long-term federal debt burden, now estimated at more than $20 trillion.

“This tax bill is a grand deception,” said Arnold Hiatt, the former chief executive of Stride Rite, which makes children’s shoes. “It hurts the most vulnerable, and hurts health care and education, which are essential for a healthy economy.”

The proposals break from seven decades’ worth of federal efforts to broaden access to higher education.

The House or Senate bill includes provisions ending the deductibility of tuition waivers for graduate students, repealing the deduction for interest paid on student loans and taxing university endowments.

The endowment tax, in particular, threatens the ability of low-income students to pursue college and graduate studies, said Ron Haskins, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. Proceeds from endowments subsidize students from lower-income families, while allowing students across the board to graduate with less debt.
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I'm now officially in the LV "anyone still voting republican is a garbage person" camp
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McParadigm wrote:I'm now officially in the LV "anyone still voting republican is a garbage person" camp
Holy shit. I couldnt read past this:

Here is one thing we know and should admit from the start: in his early thirties, Moore had a penchant for dating teenagers. Apparently, this was not an uncommon occurrence during this time. In fact, this practice has a long history and is not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family.

To have a large family, the wife must start having kids when she is young. The husband needs to be well-established and able to support the family, in which case he will typically need to marry when older. Consider Keith Burgess-Jackson’s (philosophy professor at UT Arlington) account of his own grandparents:
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banned from shopping malls.


apparently the federal gov't has lower standards.
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McParadigm wrote:It Started as a Tax Cut. Now It Could Change American Life.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/b ... iA2y?amp=1
The tax plan has been marketed by President Trump and Republican leaders as a straightforward if enormous rebate for the masses, a $1.5 trillion package of cuts to spur hiring and economic growth. But as the bill has been rushed through Congress with scant debate, its far broader ramifications have come into focus, revealing a catchall legislative creation that could reshape major areas of American life, from education to health care.

Some of this re-engineering is straight out of the traditional Republican playbook. Corporate taxes, along with those on wealthy Americans, would be slashed on the presumption that when people in penthouses get relief, the benefits flow down to basement tenements.

Some measures are barely connected to the realm of taxation, such as the lifting of a 1954 ban on political activism by churches and the conferring of a new legal right for fetuses in the House bill — both on the wish list of the evangelical right.

With a potentially far-reaching dimension, elements in both the House and Senate bills could constrain the ability of states and local governments to levy their own taxes, pressuring them to limit spending on health care, education, public transportation and social services. In their longstanding battle to shrink government, Republicans have found in the tax bill a vehicle to broaden the fight beyond Washington.

The result is a behemoth piece of legislation that could widen American economic inequality while diminishing the power of local communities to marshal relief for vulnerable people — especially in high-tax states like California and New York, which, not coincidentally, tend to vote Democratic.

All of this is taking shape at such extraordinary velocity, absent the usual analyses and hearings, that even the most savvy Washington lobbyist cannot be fully certain of the implications.

“There’s a Christmas-tree aspect to the bill,” said C. Eugene Steuerle, a Treasury official during the Reagan administration and now a senior fellow at the Urban Institute. As an example, he cited the provisions in the House bill designed to appeal to the religious right.

“People want to add certain things, and if they don’t cost a lot, it’s a way to buy in agreement,” Mr. Steuerle said.

By 2027, people making $40,000 to $50,000 would pay a combined $5.3 billion more in taxes, while the group earning $1 million or more would get a $5.8 billion cut, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation and the Congressional Budget Office.

In a recent University of Chicago survey of 38 prominent economists across the ideological spectrum, only one said the proposed tax cuts would yield substantial economic growth. Unanimously, the economists said the tax cuts would add to the long-term federal debt burden, now estimated at more than $20 trillion.

“This tax bill is a grand deception,” said Arnold Hiatt, the former chief executive of Stride Rite, which makes children’s shoes. “It hurts the most vulnerable, and hurts health care and education, which are essential for a healthy economy.”

The proposals break from seven decades’ worth of federal efforts to broaden access to higher education.

The House or Senate bill includes provisions ending the deductibility of tuition waivers for graduate students, repealing the deduction for interest paid on student loans and taxing university endowments.

The endowment tax, in particular, threatens the ability of low-income students to pursue college and graduate studies, said Ron Haskins, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. Proceeds from endowments subsidize students from lower-income families, while allowing students across the board to graduate with less debt.

Reagan pushed us into Neo-liberalism, Thatcher did the same in England. Its basically corporate welfare, public risk with private profit. But Reagan shifted 1 Trillion dollars from the public sector-subsidies for single mothers' and low income housing, stole from social programs, things like that-but he at least invested that trillion. It wasn't simply redistributing wealth just to be a dick, he put it into tech....thus cell phones and the digital age.

The current tax cut is Nothing but a redistribution of wealth. No plan to invest, just giving those that have more...more.
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Tillerson out, Pompeo to State? WTF is this shit show....
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Bi_3 wrote:Tillerson out, Pompeo to State? WTF is this shit show....
Christ. I can't even walk to work without my phone out anymore.
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It's time to end this. Please. Please, someone just end this.
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Bi_3 wrote:Tillerson out, Pompeo to State? WTF is this shit show....
Christ. I can't even walk to work without my phone out anymore.

Turns out that was RUMINT. sorry for the confusion... :oops:
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Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Tillerson out, Pompeo to State? WTF is this shit show....
Christ. I can't even walk to work without my phone out anymore.

Turns out that was RUMINT. sorry for the confusion... :oops:
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McParadigm wrote:
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McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Tillerson out, Pompeo to State? WTF is this shit show....
Christ. I can't even walk to work without my phone out anymore.

Turns out that was RUMINT. sorry for the confusion... :oops:
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Seems to be a push on the mental unfitness front. Joe Scarborough said he was told by Trump associates during the campaign that Trump had early dementia. Not that it means anything really...Republicans won't impeach and I don't see Kelly et al. invoking the 25th amendment on the guy.
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So, Tom Cotton potentially for CIA director. And they were worried about Pompeo being too political a choice.
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Trumps ‘working visit’ to the UK has been cancelled. Aka he’s been uninvited.
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dimejinky99 wrote:Trumps ‘working visit’ to the UK has been cancelled. Aka he’s been uninvited.
they know he will be getting indicted soon so not worth spending time making the arrangements
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/u ... ml?referer

WASHINGTON — President Trump over the summer repeatedly urged senior Senate Republicans, including the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, to end the panel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, according to a half dozen lawmakers and aides. Mr. Trump’s requests were a highly unusual intervention from a president into a legislative inquiry involving his family and close aides.

Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina, the intelligence committee chairman, said in an interview this week that Mr. Trump told him that he was eager to see an investigation that has overshadowed much of the first year of his presidency come to an end.

“It was something along the lines of, ‘I hope you can conclude this as quickly as possible,’” Mr. Burr said. He said he replied to Mr. Trump that “when we have exhausted everybody we need to talk to, we will finish.”

In addition, according to lawmakers and aides, Mr. Trump told Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, and Senator Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri and a member of the intelligence committee, to end the investigation swiftly.

Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat who is a former chairwoman of the intelligence committee, said in an interview this week that Mr. Trump’s requests were “inappropriate” and represented a breach of the separation of powers.
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