Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

[dimejinky99]

This is a good read but especially for anyone having trouble with it.

https://t.co/SbTDq3ks88?amp=1

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While he skips over all the other problems with the movie, which are there regardless, I can’t agree that all the Skywalkers dying out is a satisfying end to the saga. That somehow all the Sith and Jedi dying brings balance to the universe. For me it’s a betrayal of the OT, and hurts the saga more than anything.

i spoilered this anders.


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there are still two skywalkers alive. leia (though they cant carry that through) and ben solo - in fact a skywalker now rules the galaxy.

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But in the article he says they must end, and Ben must die. And of course Ben must die, he is the villain.

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i wouldnt conflate skywalkers and jedi

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No, they are clearly separate. But the nine episode saga is about the Skywalkers.

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right, which will conclude with the end of the Anakin - Luke - Ben skywalker arc.

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Which is a terrible ending to a saga.

what other outcome can there be though?

[stip]

This is a good read but especially for anyone having trouble with it.

https://t.co/SbTDq3ks88?amp=1

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While he skips over all the other problems with the movie, which are there regardless, I can’t agree that all the Skywalkers dying out is a satisfying end to the saga. That somehow all the Sith and Jedi dying brings balance to the universe. For me it’s a betrayal of the OT, and hurts the saga more than anything.

i spoilered this anders.


also

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there are still two skywalkers alive. leia (though they cant carry that through) and ben solo - in fact a skywalker now rules the galaxy.

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But in the article he says they must end, and Ben must die. And of course Ben must die, he is the villain.

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i wouldnt conflate skywalkers and jedi

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No, they are clearly separate. But the nine episode saga is about the Skywalkers.

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right, which will conclude with the end of the Anakin - Luke - Ben skywalker arc.

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Which is a terrible ending to a saga.

why?

[stip]

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while I don't like the leia space walk bit, I wonder if one reason that is there is to remind the audience that the skywalker connection can be just as potent running through Leia as through Luke

[dimejinky99]

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while I don't like the leia space walk bit, I wonder if one reason that is there is to remind the audience that the skywalker connection can be just as potent running through Leia as through Luke

thats exactly what it is...the certain point of view book has Yoda wanting to train Leia..shes more disciplined, more focused and the implication is shes more powerful.

[stip]

is that new canon or old canon?

[dimejinky99]

is that new canon or old canon?

new canon..but 'soft'..the title of the book is from a certain point of view..40 stroies from a new hope but seen from different POVs

[LoathedVermin72]

Welp I guess I’m about to see this right now actually

[Kaius]

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the Leia space-walking scene was beautiful and poignant. It didn't feel out-of-place to me at all. I'm struggling to understand how someone could rationally take issue with it

[dimejinky99]

Welp I guess I’m about to see this right now actually

woohoo!!

[VinylGuy]

Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

[dimejinky99]

Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

i'm not sure there'll be a new trilogy within the saga..not for a very long time.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

Yeah if you are referring to the trilogy that Johnson is doing, that one is taking place in a totally different time period

[stip]

Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

I think that's why they are commissioning that new trilogy from Johnson. So if they come back to this story it would be years later and whatever happens next.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Im not sure how a new trilogy without these characters is going to function.

I think that's why they are commissioning that new trilogy from Johnson. So if they come back to this story it would be years later and whatever happens next.

No. Johnson's new trilogy is probably taking place during the early times of the Jedi. Nothing to do with any of this

[stip]

That was my point. I think they are shelving this part of the universe after 9 to see what they can do with Johnson's new story

[Kaius]

the TLJ sub reddit is seething with hate for this movie.

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opening weekend in a SW thread is always great. it's less of a discussion and more everyone kinda talking over each other.

[Coach]

in coach’s post, for instance

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useless poe is necessary - he fails and fails again because he is learning what leadership requires (not heroism) at this moment in history. Johnson takes a hot shot pilot and blows up his ship after the opening scene so he has to struggle with being powerless. He fails and in the end learns from his failure (which yoda also teaches luke). its great stuff

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To clarify, I just don't care for the character, or many of the new ones. It's not about his success/failures or anything like that. The new characters I like most are Rey and Finn.

[stip]

I love both movies, but I wish there was a way to identify if you are complaining about both TFA being derivitive and TLJ deviating too much from star wars expectations.


This is an amazing film. Challenging in all the right ways, beautifully shot, fantastic character development that is surprising and logical, and faithful to the core themes of star wars

[stip]

There is a very real chance this will go down as my favorite Star Wars film