Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.
Oh yeah. That's interesting. Remind me, do we know that Luke definitely gave R2 that piece of the map?

Can’t say for sure.

I fuckin love his reunion with R2 tho. And R2 giving him shit and Luke saying hey watch your language and then showing him the Leia hologram
Agree again. The R2/Luke reunion was great.
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This seems like a very dumb thing to get hung up on. Lightsabers are not all that meaningful in the grand scheme of power with the Force. What good was a lightsaber to Kylo when Luke projected himself on Crait? What good was a lightsaber when Luke confronted the Emperor in the OT?
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Kaius wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.
Oh yeah. That's interesting. Remind me, do we know that Luke definitely gave R2 that piece of the map?
We don't.
I didn't think so. That's just something we all assumed right? That could be an interesting thing to further explore. Not that it's necessary, just interesting.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.
Oh yeah. That's interesting. Remind me, do we know that Luke definitely gave R2 that piece of the map?

Can’t say for sure.

I fuckin love his reunion with R2 tho. And R2 giving him shit and Luke saying hey watch your language and then showing him the Leia hologram
Luke and R2's reunion is one of my absolute favorite things in all of the Star Wars film so far. That was my personal "Chewie, we're home" moment. I was a joyful mess the entire scene.
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Anders wrote:
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dimejinky99 wrote:There was a thousand other ways to do it and they chose they comedy route.

Does Luke seem like he’s in a fuckin funny headspace to you??

It contradicts especially where the character is at.

It was an FU from Johnson simple as that
We think it's funny. I don't think Luke or Rey think it's funny. It perfectly jibes with Luke's head space. He even calls the thing a "laser sword" for crying out loud. And he uses the term so sarcastically. I think it makes all the sense in the world.
If he called it a laser sword that makes it twice as bad.
He calls it that later. (paraphrasing) "What do you expect me to do, face down the entire First Order with my laser sword."

The best part is... that's fucking exactly what he does! Love it.
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Kaius wrote:This seems like a very dumb thing to get hung up on. Lightsabers are not all that meaningful in the grand scheme of power with the Force. What good was a lightsaber to Kylo when Luke projected himself on Crait? What good was a lightsaber when Luke confronted the Emperor in the OT?
Exactly. And the movie doubles down on this idea. It's actually a key theme/concept to this film.

I mean, I don't think there's a single shot of a light saber hitting another light saber in this movie.
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dimejinky99 wrote:There was a thousand other ways to do it and they chose they comedy route.

Does Luke seem like he’s in a fuckin funny headspace to you??

It contradicts especially where the character is at.

It was an FU from Johnson simple as that
Exactly. I can see him thinking, so these guys wait 2 years? Lets fuck this up....The comedy aspect was bullshit.
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oh my god i think youre right
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to DCTs no lightsabers touching comment
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The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
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also i assume the principled hostility to light touches in tense scenes extends to Han’s response to the status report after the prison shootout in ep IV.

we’re all fine here. How are you?
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VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
Well luke was insulting jedi. and lucas called them that.

i think people may need to slightly toughen up their skin
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VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
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Noobs

Laser sword was a tip of the hat to George.

He still to this day says laser sword not lightsaber.

They were in the script of the ot as laser sword
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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stip wrote:also i assume the principled hostility to light touches in tense scenes extends to Han’s response to the status report after the prison shootout in ep IV.

we’re all fine here. How are you?
Exactly. There's a lot of recency bias going on with the lighter elements in this film. I guess that's to be expected to a certain degree. There is so much goofy humor in the OT, it's hard to take these complaints seriously when ppl claim it was offensive to fans.
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Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
bunch of PC snowflakes in this thread
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stip wrote:to DCTs no lightsabers touching comment
It's nuts right? I wasn't 100% sure but I told my wife as we walked out of the theater that I was pretty sure no lightsabers actually touched. Crazy for a Star Wars film not titled Rogue One.
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Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
I'm glad you said it.
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stip wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
Well luke was insulting jedi. and lucas called them that.
yup
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stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
bunch of PC snowflakes in this thread
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