Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

[LoathedVermin72]

Here's a question. Was the light speed kamikaze attack the most striking visual effect in Star Wars history?

Not even close.

[dimejinky99]

Here's a question. Was the light speed kamikaze attack the most striking visual effect in Star Wars history?

Did you see the notice sent out to all cinemas I posted? About the sound gap and disappearance for ten seconds?

Yes they had to explain it to cinemas. Ah well.

[LoathedVermin72]

dime you are a complete idiot

You’re beneath contempt and view transformers as worthy of praise.

It gives me nothing but pleasure to hear you say that

Troll on little man.

Same to you, except nothing you say gives me pleasure. You are the epitome of an ignorant, drooling fanboy.

Well what’s weird is I watched transformers and did t like it and yet somehow didn’t feel the need to comment on it ENDLESSLY to disrupt the conversation of those that did.

You with me so far?

Probably not.

Never heard this argument before. Joy joy joy Star Wars Star Wars nothing negative or you’re trolling I don’t understand how movies work

Purple monkey dishwasher what?
You know less about Star Wars or film in general than a fart in a breeze. I do love the posturing though. Go you.
Fucking millennials. While you’re busy know everything wrong with everything how about fixing everything!

Oh. Wait.

Have you ever had a coherent thought

[daft twat]

Here is the one thing I can't get past if it's okay to not like the movie despite several RM heavyweights loving it (or convincing themselves they do after 5 or 6 viewings):

In RotJ, Luke was sacrificing his life for the small chance he could save his father. I don't believe the same person would then even for a second think about murdering his nephew in his sleep because he sees darkness in him. Even if I could be convinced the Dark Side is just that powerful, no way Luke just runs and hides, waiting to die in peace he doesn't deserve. He would spend his remaining days trying to right his wrong, trying to save his sister's son. And then the formerly Puritan-dry farm boy spent decades of isolation developing a really sarcastic sense of humor after ruining multiple lives. Who gives a shit if he's powerful or got to look at 2 goddam suns when he died? Subjectively, I think Rian got Luke waaaaay wrong, and that's why despite liking a lot about the movie, I hate it. When it's finally run its course at the b.o. or on dvd, I expect Mark will express similar displeasure. Again.

Thanks for ruining it for me, dick.

It's killing me. I saw RotJ in the theater when I was 6. Luke was my idol. I wish I could get past this and love it, but I can't.

Dime, I think you're a good guy. You've got a lot of posts in various threads and forums to prove it. You are being a bit of a twat in this one, though. I'm crushed by not liking this movie. I waited days before posting what's been bothering me. I'm not a bot. I don't post on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm not your enemy. And I understood the movie, even when they used complex words like "big ass door." Bottom line, in my "head canon" (?) they done Luke dirty.

[dimejinky99]

dime you are a complete idiot

You’re beneath contempt and view transformers as worthy of praise.

It gives me nothing but pleasure to hear you say that

Troll on little man.

Same to you, except nothing you say gives me pleasure. You are the epitome of an ignorant, drooling fanboy.

Well what’s weird is I watched transformers and did t like it and yet somehow didn’t feel the need to comment on it ENDLESSLY to disrupt the conversation of those that did.

You with me so far?

Probably not.

Never heard this argument before. Joy joy joy Star Wars Star Wars nothing negative or you’re trolling I don’t understand how movies work

Purple monkey dishwasher what?
You know less about Star Wars or film in general than a fart in a breeze. I do love the posturing though. Go you.
Fucking millennials. While you’re busy know everything wrong with everything how about fixing everything!

Oh. Wait.

Have you ever had a coherent thought

You’re a fucking pompous arrogant idiot?


There’s one.

[LoathedVermin72]

Good job

[stip]

Here's a question. Was the light speed kamikaze attack the most striking visual effect in Star Wars history?

Not even close.

go on...

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

Here is the one thing I can't get past if it's okay to not like the movie despite several RM heavyweights loving it (or convincing themselves they do after 5 or 6 viewings):

In RotJ, Luke was sacrificing his life for the small chance he could save his father. I don't believe the same person would then even for a second think about murdering his nephew in his sleep because he sees darkness in him. Even if I could be convinced the Dark Side is just that powerful, no way Luke just runs and hides, waiting to die in peace he doesn't deserve. He would spend his remaining days trying to right his wrong, trying to save his sister's son. And then the formerly Puritan-dry farm boy spent decades of isolation developing a really sarcastic sense of humor after ruining multiple lives. Who gives a shit if he's powerful or got to look at 2 goddam suns when he died? Subjectively, I think Rian got Luke waaaaay wrong, and that's why despite liking a lot about the movie, I hate it. When it's finally run its course at the b.o. or on dvd, I expect Mark will express similar displeasure. Again.

Thanks for ruining it for me, dick.

It's killing me. I saw RotJ in the theater when I was 6. Luke was my idol. I wish I could get past this and love it, but I can't.

Dime, I think you're a good guy. You've got a lot of posts in various threads and forums to prove it. You are being a bit of a twat in this one, though. I'm crushed by not liking this movie. I waited days before posting what's been bothering me. I'm not a bot. I don't post on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm not your enemy. And I understood the movie, even when they used complex words like "big ass door." Bottom line, in my "head canon" (?) they done Luke dirty.

Im still kind of hoping when they likely expand on the confrontation between Luke and Ren we find out Luke did not try to kill Ren but it depends on if any of the storys we have gotten so far were true

[stip]

they say that in the movie. Luke has a fleeting thought, is horrified by it, and stops but that's when Kylo woke up

[dimejinky99]

Good job

Let’s make a thread. We can abuse each other then have make up posts.

It isn’t my fault your father wiped the best part of you off your mothers ass when he pulled out but I’ll deal with the slop that was left behind in Human form if I have to.

[stip]

Jesus, dime, walk it back a notch

[daft twat]

Here is the one thing I can't get past if it's okay to not like the movie despite several RM heavyweights loving it (or convincing themselves they do after 5 or 6 viewings):

In RotJ, Luke was sacrificing his life for the small chance he could save his father. I don't believe the same person would then even for a second think about murdering his nephew in his sleep because he sees darkness in him. Even if I could be convinced the Dark Side is just that powerful, no way Luke just runs and hides, waiting to die in peace he doesn't deserve. He would spend his remaining days trying to right his wrong, trying to save his sister's son. And then the formerly Puritan-dry farm boy spent decades of isolation developing a really sarcastic sense of humor after ruining multiple lives. Who gives a shit if he's powerful or got to look at 2 goddam suns when he died? Subjectively, I think Rian got Luke waaaaay wrong, and that's why despite liking a lot about the movie, I hate it. When it's finally run its course at the b.o. or on dvd, I expect Mark will express similar displeasure. Again.

This is a really good point

That point assumes that Luke was never conflicted, never had doubts, never wondered if it would be easier. Hell, he has a whole DUEL against the father he is trying to save, and comes seconds away from striking him down in anger. Hell, he probably would have done it if the emperor hadn't overplayed his hand by goading him. Luke's power comes from making the right decision in the end, not from always being perfect.

And there is nothing in Luke's life that, in terms of mental trauma, comes close to what Luke experiences with the Kylo's fall, the death of his students, etc.


But while I disagree with you, that is a worthwhile argument made by referencing the existing texts and drawing a plausible interpretation from them. I think it's less interesting than what they did (and denies the character any room for further growth),and I don't share that interpretation of the character, but it makes sense and is thoughtful.


And I WISH I've seen it 5-6 times already. I can't fucking wait. I've almost gone out every night since Friday to see it again. Tomorrow, though

What about finding out Vader was his father? Or watching Ben die? Finding his aunt and uncle's charred bodies? The cave on Dagobah? He'd seen some shit.

[LoathedVermin72]

Here's a question. Was the light speed kamikaze attack the most striking visual effect in Star Wars history?

Not even close.

go on...

I think it’s easy to lose sight of how revolutionary and influential the previous SW movies were. Lucas created a space opera that was more breathless and seamless than any movies previously seen. The visual effects of the OT were frontier filmmaking. How could anything in TLJ even hope to match the simple sight of seeing a lightsaber ignite for the first time?

[stip]

Here is the one thing I can't get past if it's okay to not like the movie despite several RM heavyweights loving it (or convincing themselves they do after 5 or 6 viewings):

In RotJ, Luke was sacrificing his life for the small chance he could save his father. I don't believe the same person would then even for a second think about murdering his nephew in his sleep because he sees darkness in him. Even if I could be convinced the Dark Side is just that powerful, no way Luke just runs and hides, waiting to die in peace he doesn't deserve. He would spend his remaining days trying to right his wrong, trying to save his sister's son. And then the formerly Puritan-dry farm boy spent decades of isolation developing a really sarcastic sense of humor after ruining multiple lives. Who gives a shit if he's powerful or got to look at 2 goddam suns when he died? Subjectively, I think Rian got Luke waaaaay wrong, and that's why despite liking a lot about the movie, I hate it. When it's finally run its course at the b.o. or on dvd, I expect Mark will express similar displeasure. Again.

This is a really good point

That point assumes that Luke was never conflicted, never had doubts, never wondered if it would be easier. Hell, he has a whole DUEL against the father he is trying to save, and comes seconds away from striking him down in anger. Hell, he probably would have done it if the emperor hadn't overplayed his hand by goading him. Luke's power comes from making the right decision in the end, not from always being perfect.

And there is nothing in Luke's life that, in terms of mental trauma, comes close to what Luke experiences with the Kylo's fall, the death of his students, etc.


But while I disagree with you, that is a worthwhile argument made by referencing the existing texts and drawing a plausible interpretation from them. I think it's less interesting than what they did (and denies the character any room for further growth),and I don't share that interpretation of the character, but it makes sense and is thoughtful.


And I WISH I've seen it 5-6 times already. I can't fucking wait. I've almost gone out every night since Friday to see it again. Tomorrow, though

What about finding out Vader was his father? Or watching Ben die? Finding his aunt and uncle's charred bodies? The cave on Dagobah? He'd seen some shit.

He freaked out when Ben died and almost ruined their escape, and tried to kill himself when he found out about Vader. And the cave was a failure. Luke has a history of overreacting

[LoathedVermin72]

Good job

Let’s make a thread. We can abuse each other then have make up posts.

It isn’t my fault your father wiped the best part of you off your mothers ass when he pulled out but I’ll deal with the slop that was left behind in Human form if I have to.

lol okay this was a funny post

[stip]

Here's a question. Was the light speed kamikaze attack the most striking visual effect in Star Wars history?

Not even close.

go on...

I think it’s easy to lose sight of how revolutionary and influential the previous SW movies were. Lucas created a space opera that was more breathless and seamless than any movies previously seen. The visual effects of the OT were frontier filmmaking. How could anything in TLJ even hope to match the simple sight of seeing a lightsaber ignite for the first time?

From a historical standpoint absolutely. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. But looking with 2017 eyes

[dimejinky99]

Jesus, dime, walk it back a notch

Well if we’re gonna get into name calling he’s the only one that actually did that. Plus I’ve been banned for more worthy and far less statements.

[LoathedVermin72]

Here's a question. Was the light speed kamikaze attack the most striking visual effect in Star Wars history?

Not even close.

go on...

I think it’s easy to lose sight of how revolutionary and influential the previous SW movies were. Lucas created a space opera that was more breathless and seamless than any movies previously seen. The visual effects of the OT were frontier filmmaking. How could anything in TLJ even hope to match the simple sight of seeing a lightsaber ignite for the first time?

From a historical standpoint absolutely. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. But looking with 2017 eyes

With modern eyes? I’d say there are loads of images in Rogue One that blow this away. The Star Destroyer cruising away from the shadow-drenched Death Star, the destruction of a planet the characters are still on - Johnson is nowhere near Edwards’s level visually, or in terms of special effects.

[LoathedVermin72]

Jesus, dime, walk it back a notch

Well if we’re gonna get into name calling he’s the only one that actually did that. Plus I’ve been banned for more worthy and far less statements.

LMAO what? Don’t be a pussy, own your words, dork

[dimejinky99]

Here's a question. Was the light speed kamikaze attack the most striking visual effect in Star Wars history?

Not even close.

go on...

I think it’s easy to lose sight of how revolutionary and influential the previous SW movies were. Lucas created a space opera that was more breathless and seamless than any movies previously seen. The visual effects of the OT were frontier filmmaking. How could anything in TLJ even hope to match the simple sight of seeing a lightsaber ignite for the first time?

From a historical standpoint absolutely. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. But looking with 2017 eyes

So a Star Wars film only succeeds if it lives up to the hardwired double fastened qualifying standard of the original trilogy. Right.