Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

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Well?

Loved it - among the best Star Wars Movie
25
36%
Really liked it, but not one of the best
13
19%
Liked it - it's Star Wars
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14%
Ehhh
17
25%
I miss the prequels
4
6%
 
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blueviper wrote:I've only seen it once, so I may be missing things from the movie, but I'll try to capture my problem with this movie (after reading a lot from the people that liked the movie and the people who didn't)

I don't know if I necessarily dislike the characterization of Luke in this movie, but I think 1) it's handled poorly and 2) it's wrapped in a structurally weak movie

I think the failing of this movie is not the Luke/Rey/Kylo storyline (which is the main theme), but the rest of the subplots (including Leia) that I think they do a disservice to the main theme.

I talked to a coworker and he liked the movie, but felt some of the humor was too much. He said the OT had a way with stilted dialog and dry humor that made Star Wars feel not of our world. It gives it a feeling of a galaxy far, far away. The Poe/Hux exchange is so 2017 culture that it takes you out of the SW world.

Maybe I will give it a 2nd viewing, I'm not too sure. I'm surprised to read other thoughts from different websites having the same feelings I had leaving the theater. Was this a SW movie? Why am I so disappointed?

I'm glad other people could enjoy it.
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These are my thoughts almost exactly. I loved Finn and Poe in TFA, but their characters and plot points did absolutely nothing for me in TLJ. All I really cared about was the Luke, Rey, Kylo and Snoke part. And maybe I am part to blame on that. I was probably too focused on there being a big reveal or to see where that story was going that I just didn’t care what was happening to the other characters.
I’m seeing for a second time tomorrow, so hopefully I can just fully immerse myself into the movie and get more out of it then the first viewing.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:So, Warwick Davis was that short greedy casino creature.

And Gareth Edwards was a fighter in the trenches on Crait
Warwick played this guy:
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His name is Wodibin. Which continues his tradition of having a "w" name in all the Star Wars films.

Mark Hamill voiced the weird little dude who keeps shoving coins into BB8.
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Jason Gordon Lewitt or whatever the fuck his name is, voiced the alien in the posh casino talking to the cops. Posh casino but sounds like a poor southern redneck. Incongruous political commentary messaging abounds.
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http://www.slashfilm.com/snoke-apprentice/

Weird and probably something that was cut from the movie but if true could create a interesting dynamic in Episode 9.
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This was back on Oct 10th. At least I got one of my predictions right. :lol:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Alright, I watched it again today. I'm excited. So many questions.

One thing though: DON'T FUCKING KILL POE!

He better find an awesomely heroic way out of that exploding ship. Probably with Leia in his arms.
I think they're setting up Poe to basically take over for Leia and run the resistance. Poe lives.
I really hope you're right, durds. He's perfect for the role.
Im like 97%.
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durdencommatyler wrote:This was back on Oct 10th. At least I got one of my predictions right. :lol:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Alright, I watched it again today. I'm excited. So many questions.

One thing though: DON'T FUCKING KILL POE!

He better find an awesomely heroic way out of that exploding ship. Probably with Leia in his arms.
I think they're setting up Poe to basically take over for Leia and run the resistance. Poe lives.
I really hope you're right, durds. He's perfect for the role.
Im like 97%.

The entire internet knew he was being set up to take over tho. It’s even in the comics
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dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:This was back on Oct 10th. At least I got one of my predictions right. :lol:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Alright, I watched it again today. I'm excited. So many questions.

One thing though: DON'T FUCKING KILL POE!

He better find an awesomely heroic way out of that exploding ship. Probably with Leia in his arms.
I think they're setting up Poe to basically take over for Leia and run the resistance. Poe lives.
I really hope you're right, durds. He's perfect for the role.
Im like 97%.

The entire internet knew he was being set up to take over tho. It’s even in the comics
Well obviously not the entire internet, dime, since one of our own asked the question. Just because I'm smart (or dumb) enough to pay attention to comics and listen to Star Wars blogs doesn't mean I wasn't right about this. So...
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Actually, speaking of stuff "the whole internet" knew... why don't you tell us again about that epic battle between Luke and the Knights of Ren that some fan snagged cellphone footage of.
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durdencommatyler wrote:Actually, speaking of stuff "the whole internet" knew... why don't you tell us again about that epic battle between Luke and the Knights of Ren that some fan snagged cellphone footage of.

Yeah it was cut from the film. Did you see it? Looks like JJ gets to bring back the knights of ren again to act as his personal henchmen while he screws up ruling the galaxy.

Who even wants that. What a shame. #ahchtoslaughter #neverforget
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dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Actually, speaking of stuff "the whole internet" knew... why don't you tell us again about that epic battle between Luke and the Knights of Ren that some fan snagged cellphone footage of.

Yeah it was cut from the film. Did you see it? Looks like JJ gets to bring back the knights of ren again to act as his personal henchmen while he screws up ruling the galaxy.

Who even wants that. What a shame. #ahchtoslaughter #neverforget
I did not see it. Are you sure it got cut? I'm prone to believe it was never a thing. I think all that stuff was just stuff from the Canto Bight sequence.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Actually, speaking of stuff "the whole internet" knew... why don't you tell us again about that epic battle between Luke and the Knights of Ren that some fan snagged cellphone footage of.

Yeah it was cut from the film. Did you see it? Looks like JJ gets to bring back the knights of ren again to act as his personal henchmen while he screws up ruling the galaxy.

Who even wants that. What a shame. #ahchtoslaughter #neverforget
I did not see it. Are you sure it got cut? I'm prone to believe it was never a thing. I think all that stuff was just stuff from the Canto Bight sequence.

Blame making Star Wars not me

Recently I glimpsed some photos of a set on the water at Malin Head. On the shoreline were seven men in black. There might be more but some of the people are hard to make out. All of these people are wearing all black with helmets, resembling medieval knights with weapons. The characters are not wearing the black covers to hide their costumes like they did back at Dubrovnik. These are actual black costumes. It is my opinion and the source’s opinion that these are the Knights of Ren. Kylo Ren could always have another gang of warriors in black but I think its likely they’re the guys we saw in The Force Awakens.

There are “black helmeted medieval-looking figures” going after Luke Skywalker and Rey on the coast of Ahch-To. The guys I once referred to as Jedi Hunters back in the day were described in the same way back during the production of Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

From what I have heard a few times, Rey is reluctant with (if not angry at) Luke Skywalker because she has to kill Kylo Ren and she doesn’t want to do it. The scene that follows appears to be when the showdown finally begins. I suppose she accepts her duty or has no choice but to fight.

The text below is what the source(s) witnessed:

Luke Skywalker and Rey are on Ahch-To just before nightfall as the sun sets in the background and it starts to rain.
Rey’s hair is pulled back. She doesn’t have the vest from VII on.
Luke and Rey are wearing the costumes we described before.
Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren turn up along the coast.
Kylo Ren continues advancing towards the heroes with the Knights of Ren.
Kylo does not wear the mask here.
Kylo has the same cross guard saber as he did in VII.
Kylo’s costume looked the same as in VII.
Rey and Kylo Ren duel one-on-one and end up fighting along the cliff face overlooking the nighttime water.
Kylo wants his revenge after Rey disgraced him.
The Knights of Ren go for Luke Skywalker while Rey is left for Kylo.
Luke Skywalker engages the Knights on the beach while Kylo attempts to kill Rey.
The first black knight has an axe and moves towards the Luke but is Force pushed away to his death after being thrown through the air.
After Luke dispatches the first Knight he ignites his green lightsaber.
Luke moves through each Knight one-by-one.
Rey and Kylo’s battle moves up to the side of a cliff.
Suddenly Rey is nowhere to be seen. She’s taken out of the battle; she’s either wounded or appears to go over the side of the cliff.
Luke Skywalker casually walks towards Kylo to finish him but Kylo retreats when he sees his crew defeated.
Luke Skywalker is a badass Jedi and he’ll destroy your squad.
One source commented:

“A lot of wire work was used.”
Luke Skywalker fights the Knights of Ren using the Force and then his sword, a mixture of wizard and warrior. While we can confirm that Luke does use his lightsaber, we think we can confirm the color too; the lightsaber was green for the light-rod on set. So it appears Luke still has his Return of the Jedi saber after all these years. There were also white flashing effects used in the battle.

The question is: does Luke let Kylo run? Can he not kill him for familial reasons or because Rey must do it as part of her training? The impression I get is that Luke knew Kylo would run and allows him to. Luke’s behavior doesn’t indicate he believes Rey is killed or anything like that. My guess is they may film something back at Pinewood of Rey hanging on for life or injured on the side of the cliff. It sounds like Luke Skywalker arrives in time to save her from Kylo’s treachery and Rey is a really good free climber after all.

We theorize that the location is the final Jedi ruin site Luke and Rey need to visit. Based on some rumors out of Pinewood, we also theorize that Kylo may be running inside the location Luke and Rey are heading towards so the fight will continue inside the spooky ruins of the Jedi Temple there. But at this point we have no verification of these theories just the bullet-pointed statements above.

The sequence sounds really fun and may be the coolest start to a duel in a Star Wars film ever.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Actually, speaking of stuff "the whole internet" knew... why don't you tell us again about that epic battle between Luke and the Knights of Ren that some fan snagged cellphone footage of.

Yeah it was cut from the film. Did you see it? Looks like JJ gets to bring back the knights of ren again to act as his personal henchmen while he screws up ruling the galaxy.

Who even wants that. What a shame. #ahchtoslaughter #neverforget
I did not see it. Are you sure it got cut? I'm prone to believe it was never a thing. I think all that stuff was just stuff from the Canto Bight sequence.

Blame making Star Wars not me

Recently I glimpsed some photos of a set on the water at Malin Head. On the shoreline were seven men in black. There might be more but some of the people are hard to make out. All of these people are wearing all black with helmets, resembling medieval knights with weapons. The characters are not wearing the black covers to hide their costumes like they did back at Dubrovnik. These are actual black costumes. It is my opinion and the source’s opinion that these are the Knights of Ren. Kylo Ren could always have another gang of warriors in black but I think its likely they’re the guys we saw in The Force Awakens.

There are “black helmeted medieval-looking figures” going after Luke Skywalker and Rey on the coast of Ahch-To. The guys I once referred to as Jedi Hunters back in the day were described in the same way back during the production of Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

From what I have heard a few times, Rey is reluctant with (if not angry at) Luke Skywalker because she has to kill Kylo Ren and she doesn’t want to do it. The scene that follows appears to be when the showdown finally begins. I suppose she accepts her duty or has no choice but to fight.

The text below is what the source(s) witnessed:

Luke Skywalker and Rey are on Ahch-To just before nightfall as the sun sets in the background and it starts to rain.
Rey’s hair is pulled back. She doesn’t have the vest from VII on.
Luke and Rey are wearing the costumes we described before.
Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren turn up along the coast.
Kylo Ren continues advancing towards the heroes with the Knights of Ren.
Kylo does not wear the mask here.
Kylo has the same cross guard saber as he did in VII.
Kylo’s costume looked the same as in VII.
Rey and Kylo Ren duel one-on-one and end up fighting along the cliff face overlooking the nighttime water.
Kylo wants his revenge after Rey disgraced him.
The Knights of Ren go for Luke Skywalker while Rey is left for Kylo.
Luke Skywalker engages the Knights on the beach while Kylo attempts to kill Rey.
The first black knight has an axe and moves towards the Luke but is Force pushed away to his death after being thrown through the air.
After Luke dispatches the first Knight he ignites his green lightsaber.
Luke moves through each Knight one-by-one.
Rey and Kylo’s battle moves up to the side of a cliff.
Suddenly Rey is nowhere to be seen. She’s taken out of the battle; she’s either wounded or appears to go over the side of the cliff.
Luke Skywalker casually walks towards Kylo to finish him but Kylo retreats when he sees his crew defeated.
Luke Skywalker is a badass Jedi and he’ll destroy your squad.
One source commented:

“A lot of wire work was used.”
Luke Skywalker fights the Knights of Ren using the Force and then his sword, a mixture of wizard and warrior. While we can confirm that Luke does use his lightsaber, we think we can confirm the color too; the lightsaber was green for the light-rod on set. So it appears Luke still has his Return of the Jedi saber after all these years. There were also white flashing effects used in the battle.

The question is: does Luke let Kylo run? Can he not kill him for familial reasons or because Rey must do it as part of her training? The impression I get is that Luke knew Kylo would run and allows him to. Luke’s behavior doesn’t indicate he believes Rey is killed or anything like that. My guess is they may film something back at Pinewood of Rey hanging on for life or injured on the side of the cliff. It sounds like Luke Skywalker arrives in time to save her from Kylo’s treachery and Rey is a really good free climber after all.

We theorize that the location is the final Jedi ruin site Luke and Rey need to visit. Based on some rumors out of Pinewood, we also theorize that Kylo may be running inside the location Luke and Rey are heading towards so the fight will continue inside the spooky ruins of the Jedi Temple there. But at this point we have no verification of these theories just the bullet-pointed statements above.

The sequence sounds really fun and may be the coolest start to a duel in a Star Wars film ever.

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I'm just busting your balls, dime. You were plugging that hardcore for a long time. I know you got it from them, I'm just saying. My prediction in that one stupid case was way more accurate. :lol:
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durdencommatyler wrote:I'm just busting your balls, dime. You were plugging that hardcore for a long time. I know you got it from them, I'm just saying. My prediction in that one stupid case was way more accurate. :lol:

I know x.

Do you think it might have been better tho? To have the KOR turn up and Luke just take them apart?

I kinda think it could have been cool. Almost feels like the battle comes to Luke in the final act and somehow Crait was the replacement for it.

We will never know I guess. Excited to see the extra shot of Luke training Rey on the dvd though. They played the one in the film for comedy. There should have been one more for solemnity.
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Given what Rian set up, I don't think it would have been better. I love the way it played out. In a different universe, or an alternate take, where Luke hadn't shut himself off from the Force, I think it could have been cool. I'd love to see a similar version of that kind of thing at some point in the years between RotJ and TLJ.
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Guys.

The Last Jedi is a better film in every level imaginable than the force awakens.

Please send all outrage to the durdencommatyler account. He’s handling all my ‘what I meant to say’ stuff recently.
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Whoa wait a minute...
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Finally saw it today. Other than a few decent scenes, I thought this movie was garbage.
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You're not alone, EJ. There's a huge split among viewers. It'll be interesting to see if this is really "the new Empire" in that it's the follow up film that everybody hates upon release and then comes around to love and revere.

I loved it. It's certainly flawed. And there is some outright stupid shit in the movie, for sure. But there's dumb shit in every Star Wars movie. I think this will end up settling in my top five SW films for sure. Might even make that top spot. We'll see.

But after one viewing, I'm a fan.
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Ok, just came from watching it again, this time it was imax.

Gotta say, i like it more. Yeah, the comedy tone is fucking absurd and it hurts the movie. But im at peace with what Luke is doing here. Im a little mad that we dont get to see a cool fight with him again. Maybe in ep 9? please.
But i was very emotional during Yoda´s appearance and specially during Leia and Luke´s moment. And yeah, the scene with Kylo and Rey looking to each other and fighting the guards is pretty awesome....also Snoke is great guys.

I still think Poe and Finn are misused and the whole sequence in the casino is lousy.
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