Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

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Well?

Loved it - among the best Star Wars Movie
25
36%
Really liked it, but not one of the best
13
19%
Liked it - it's Star Wars
10
14%
Ehhh
17
25%
I miss the prequels
4
6%
 
Total votes: 69

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Although no star wars movies do well in china (comparatively)
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Sure. China isn't the point. 1.1 billion world wide before China is the point. I feel like the world has lost it's mind. At what point did 1.1 BILLION dollars stop being an absurd amount of money?
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I was just curious so I checked audience (rather than critic) scores on a few aggregators. The numbers in parentheses is the number of votes. Cinescore is an industry site that does exit movie surveying, so it's not an online poll and subject to more rigorous demographic controls (but of course just captures one moment in time)


IMDB
Force Awakens 8.0 (717,000)
Rogue One 7.8 (397,000)
Last Jedi 7.6 (263,000)

Metacritic
Force Awakens 6.9 (6500)
Rogue One 7.6 (2600)
Last Jedi 4.6 (5500)


Cinescore
Force Awakens A
Rogue One A
Last Jedi A


Rotten Tomatoes
Force Awakens 88% (225,000)
Rogue One 87% (98,000)
Last Jedi 50% (168,00)


We see that the metacritic score is low, but that's also a very small sample size compared to what we see elsewhere. The Cinescore score is the only controlled data, and that's constant across all three movies. There is a huge drop off on RT, but what is kind of striking about that score is how many votes it has in such a short period of time (almost 1.5 times as many as rouge one and closing in on FA after only three weeks in theaters). That does point to some unusual behavior amongst users.

By far and away the largest sample is found on IMDB, and while it scored the lowest of the three in terms of audience reaction (and has the fewest votes,not surprising given how little it's been out) the three movies are all pretty close together, and there is by far the largest sample size on IMDB.


I am a bit skeptical of that RT number, especially with some of the decent reporting that has reason to believe that number is the product of a particular campaign (because the RT scores are used as short hand for quality more than what you find on IMDB). If that number was legit you'd expect to see a greater disparity between TLJ and the other movies on IMDB.
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durdencommatyler wrote:Sure. China isn't the point. 1.1 billion world wide before China is the point. I feel like the world has lost it's mind. At what point did 1.1 BILLION dollars stop being an absurd amount of money?
I don't disagree with you. That was just an aside.
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it is projected to close out somewhere close to 1.5 billion, I think, which is half again what R1 did. Disney is just fine
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The metacritic score I see is 85.

What are you looking at?
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stip wrote:it is projected to close out somewhere close to 1.5 billion, I think, which is half again what R1 did. Disney is just fine
Wait, what?

Rogue One made 1.05 billion world wide. The Last Jedi has already surpassed that.
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durdencommatyler wrote:The metacritic score I see is 85.

What are you looking at?
audience score. critically TLJ did great
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durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:it is projected to close out somewhere close to 1.5 billion, I think, which is half again what R1 did. Disney is just fine
Wait, what?

Rogue One made 1.05 billion world wide. The Last Jedi has already surpassed that.

I know. It'll do about half again what R1 did (half of r1 is 500 million)

Did I use that expression wrong?
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It opened #2 in China, behind a rom-com
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durdencommatyler wrote:The metacritic score I see is 85.

What are you looking at?
The user score on metacritic is 4,6. 2211 positive, 791 mixed and 2809 negative.
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stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:The metacritic score I see is 85.

What are you looking at?
audience score. critically TLJ did great
Ah. Thank you. I didn't scroll down. I had no idea metacritic had separate scores. I usually just like at cinescore because it's the most verified.
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Or that's what people seem to think
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That was about the China opening
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stip wrote:I was just curious so I checked audience (rather than critic) scores on a few aggregators. The numbers in parentheses is the number of votes. Cinescore is an industry site that does exit movie surveying, so it's not an online poll and subject to more rigorous demographic controls (but of course just captures one moment in time)


IMDB
Force Awakens 8.0 (717,000)
Rogue One 7.8 (397,000)
Last Jedi 7.6 (263,000)

Metacritic
Force Awakens 6.9 (6500)
Rogue One 7.6 (2600)
Last Jedi 4.6 (5500)


Cinescore
Force Awakens A
Rogue One A
Last Jedi A


Rotten Tomatoes
Force Awakens 88% (225,000)
Rogue One 87% (98,000)
Last Jedi 50% (168,00)


We see that the metacritic score is low, but that's also a very small sample size compared to what we see elsewhere. The Cinescore score is the only controlled data, and that's constant across all three movies. There is a huge drop off on RT, but what is kind of striking about that score is how many votes it has in such a short period of time (almost 1.5 times as many as rouge one and closing in on FA after only three weeks in theaters). That does point to some unusual behavior amongst users.

By far and away the largest sample is found on IMDB, and while it scored the lowest of the three in terms of audience reaction (and has the fewest votes,not surprising given how little it's been out) the three movies are all pretty close together, and there is by far the largest sample size on IMDB.


I am a bit skeptical of that RT number, especially with some of the decent reporting that has reason to believe that number is the product of a particular campaign (because the RT scores are used as short hand for quality more than what you find on IMDB). If that number was legit you'd expect to see a greater disparity between TLJ and the other movies on IMDB.
Good data. I believe the IMDB score will drop to 7,5 soon, as all indicators show that. Revenge Of The Sith has Arithmetic mean = 7.6 Median = 8 while for TLJ it's Arithmetic mean = 7.2 Median = 8. The user score among men is 7,5 in total and 7,4 for adults. The same male score for Revenge is 7,6 in total and 7,5 for adults.
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Anders wrote:
stip wrote:I was just curious so I checked audience (rather than critic) scores on a few aggregators. The numbers in parentheses is the number of votes. Cinescore is an industry site that does exit movie surveying, so it's not an online poll and subject to more rigorous demographic controls (but of course just captures one moment in time)


IMDB
Force Awakens 8.0 (717,000)
Rogue One 7.8 (397,000)
Last Jedi 7.6 (263,000)

Metacritic
Force Awakens 6.9 (6500)
Rogue One 7.6 (2600)
Last Jedi 4.6 (5500)


Cinescore
Force Awakens A
Rogue One A
Last Jedi A


Rotten Tomatoes
Force Awakens 88% (225,000)
Rogue One 87% (98,000)
Last Jedi 50% (168,00)


We see that the metacritic score is low, but that's also a very small sample size compared to what we see elsewhere. The Cinescore score is the only controlled data, and that's constant across all three movies. There is a huge drop off on RT, but what is kind of striking about that score is how many votes it has in such a short period of time (almost 1.5 times as many as rouge one and closing in on FA after only three weeks in theaters). That does point to some unusual behavior amongst users.

By far and away the largest sample is found on IMDB, and while it scored the lowest of the three in terms of audience reaction (and has the fewest votes,not surprising given how little it's been out) the three movies are all pretty close together, and there is by far the largest sample size on IMDB.


I am a bit skeptical of that RT number, especially with some of the decent reporting that has reason to believe that number is the product of a particular campaign (because the RT scores are used as short hand for quality more than what you find on IMDB). If that number was legit you'd expect to see a greater disparity between TLJ and the other movies on IMDB.
Good data. I believe the IMDB score will drop to 7,5 soon, as all indicators show that. Revenge Of The Sith has Arithmetic mean = 7.6 Median = 8 while for TLJ it's Arithmetic mean = 7.2 Median = 8. The user score among men is 7,5 and 7,4 for adults. The same score for Revenge is 7,6 and 7,5.
The fact that the IMDB score is the same for TLJ and RotS shows how flawed that system is. :lol:
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
Anders wrote:
stip wrote:I was just curious so I checked audience (rather than critic) scores on a few aggregators. The numbers in parentheses is the number of votes. Cinescore is an industry site that does exit movie surveying, so it's not an online poll and subject to more rigorous demographic controls (but of course just captures one moment in time)


IMDB
Force Awakens 8.0 (717,000)
Rogue One 7.8 (397,000)
Last Jedi 7.6 (263,000)

Metacritic
Force Awakens 6.9 (6500)
Rogue One 7.6 (2600)
Last Jedi 4.6 (5500)


Cinescore
Force Awakens A
Rogue One A
Last Jedi A


Rotten Tomatoes
Force Awakens 88% (225,000)
Rogue One 87% (98,000)
Last Jedi 50% (168,00)


We see that the metacritic score is low, but that's also a very small sample size compared to what we see elsewhere. The Cinescore score is the only controlled data, and that's constant across all three movies. There is a huge drop off on RT, but what is kind of striking about that score is how many votes it has in such a short period of time (almost 1.5 times as many as rouge one and closing in on FA after only three weeks in theaters). That does point to some unusual behavior amongst users.

By far and away the largest sample is found on IMDB, and while it scored the lowest of the three in terms of audience reaction (and has the fewest votes,not surprising given how little it's been out) the three movies are all pretty close together, and there is by far the largest sample size on IMDB.


I am a bit skeptical of that RT number, especially with some of the decent reporting that has reason to believe that number is the product of a particular campaign (because the RT scores are used as short hand for quality more than what you find on IMDB). If that number was legit you'd expect to see a greater disparity between TLJ and the other movies on IMDB.
Good data. I believe the IMDB score will drop to 7,5 soon, as all indicators show that. Revenge Of The Sith has Arithmetic mean = 7.6 Median = 8 while for TLJ it's Arithmetic mean = 7.2 Median = 8. The user score among men is 7,5 and 7,4 for adults. The same score for Revenge is 7,6 and 7,5.
The fact that the IMDB score is the same for TLJ and RotS shows how flawed that system is. :lol:
Well, it's based on what a large group of people think. I think RotS is a far superior movie, but it's about the average score of a large group of people.
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Anders wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Anders wrote:
stip wrote:I was just curious so I checked audience (rather than critic) scores on a few aggregators. The numbers in parentheses is the number of votes. Cinescore is an industry site that does exit movie surveying, so it's not an online poll and subject to more rigorous demographic controls (but of course just captures one moment in time)


IMDB
Force Awakens 8.0 (717,000)
Rogue One 7.8 (397,000)
Last Jedi 7.6 (263,000)

Metacritic
Force Awakens 6.9 (6500)
Rogue One 7.6 (2600)
Last Jedi 4.6 (5500)


Cinescore
Force Awakens A
Rogue One A
Last Jedi A


Rotten Tomatoes
Force Awakens 88% (225,000)
Rogue One 87% (98,000)
Last Jedi 50% (168,00)


We see that the metacritic score is low, but that's also a very small sample size compared to what we see elsewhere. The Cinescore score is the only controlled data, and that's constant across all three movies. There is a huge drop off on RT, but what is kind of striking about that score is how many votes it has in such a short period of time (almost 1.5 times as many as rouge one and closing in on FA after only three weeks in theaters). That does point to some unusual behavior amongst users.

By far and away the largest sample is found on IMDB, and while it scored the lowest of the three in terms of audience reaction (and has the fewest votes,not surprising given how little it's been out) the three movies are all pretty close together, and there is by far the largest sample size on IMDB.


I am a bit skeptical of that RT number, especially with some of the decent reporting that has reason to believe that number is the product of a particular campaign (because the RT scores are used as short hand for quality more than what you find on IMDB). If that number was legit you'd expect to see a greater disparity between TLJ and the other movies on IMDB.
Good data. I believe the IMDB score will drop to 7,5 soon, as all indicators show that. Revenge Of The Sith has Arithmetic mean = 7.6 Median = 8 while for TLJ it's Arithmetic mean = 7.2 Median = 8. The user score among men is 7,5 and 7,4 for adults. The same score for Revenge is 7,6 and 7,5.
The fact that the IMDB score is the same for TLJ and RotS shows how flawed that system is. :lol:
Well, it's based on what a large group of people think. I think RotS is a far superior movie, but it's about the average score of a large group of people.
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
Anders wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Anders wrote:
stip wrote:I was just curious so I checked audience (rather than critic) scores on a few aggregators. The numbers in parentheses is the number of votes. Cinescore is an industry site that does exit movie surveying, so it's not an online poll and subject to more rigorous demographic controls (but of course just captures one moment in time)


IMDB
Force Awakens 8.0 (717,000)
Rogue One 7.8 (397,000)
Last Jedi 7.6 (263,000)

Metacritic
Force Awakens 6.9 (6500)
Rogue One 7.6 (2600)
Last Jedi 4.6 (5500)


Cinescore
Force Awakens A
Rogue One A
Last Jedi A


Rotten Tomatoes
Force Awakens 88% (225,000)
Rogue One 87% (98,000)
Last Jedi 50% (168,00)


We see that the metacritic score is low, but that's also a very small sample size compared to what we see elsewhere. The Cinescore score is the only controlled data, and that's constant across all three movies. There is a huge drop off on RT, but what is kind of striking about that score is how many votes it has in such a short period of time (almost 1.5 times as many as rouge one and closing in on FA after only three weeks in theaters). That does point to some unusual behavior amongst users.

By far and away the largest sample is found on IMDB, and while it scored the lowest of the three in terms of audience reaction (and has the fewest votes,not surprising given how little it's been out) the three movies are all pretty close together, and there is by far the largest sample size on IMDB.


I am a bit skeptical of that RT number, especially with some of the decent reporting that has reason to believe that number is the product of a particular campaign (because the RT scores are used as short hand for quality more than what you find on IMDB). If that number was legit you'd expect to see a greater disparity between TLJ and the other movies on IMDB.
Good data. I believe the IMDB score will drop to 7,5 soon, as all indicators show that. Revenge Of The Sith has Arithmetic mean = 7.6 Median = 8 while for TLJ it's Arithmetic mean = 7.2 Median = 8. The user score among men is 7,5 and 7,4 for adults. The same score for Revenge is 7,6 and 7,5.
The fact that the IMDB score is the same for TLJ and RotS shows how flawed that system is. :lol:
Well, it's based on what a large group of people think. I think RotS is a far superior movie, but it's about the average score of a large group of people.
:roll:
What is so strange about that? I've never praised TLJ. I think ROTS is up there with Rogue One as a great modern SW movie.
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It’s a fucked up world we live in when we allow numbers made up about what other people supposedly think, to think for us. So depressing.
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