I was actually thinking that the video really highlighted how weak of a riff it is.Heathen wrote:it sounds better here than on the actual song
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That too. It's clearly recycled.
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I'm only talking about the soundtheplatypus wrote:I was actually thinking that the video really highlighted how weak of a riff it is.Heathen wrote:it sounds better here than on the actual song
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i suspect we will get a lot more. such a nastier song the way he played it there
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My thinking is that a mediocre riff is better than no riff. For the last couple of albums we've had nothing but boring thrashing around with open chords, because they wanted to 'sound like The Who' or whatever that is.
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I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
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the main riff is stuff we have heard before. i wish they did more with that opening part.
still really like this song. solid 4 stars
still really like this song. solid 4 stars
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that has been them from the beginning.harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
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Has it? It would make me feel a lot better if I felt that.stip wrote:that has been them from the beginning.harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
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This. I like that part. Maybe I should revise my vote now.stip wrote:i wish they did more with that opening part.
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pearl jam has never been 'original' and other than vedder never really had a sound all their own. they are a distillation of a wide array of musical influences rather than their own voice (again, outside Eddie). That's one of the reasons why you get so many styles of songs from them, and people will find themselves enjoying songs that are related to genres and approaches they are otherwise not really interested in .harmless wrote:Has it? It would make me feel a lot better if I felt that.stip wrote:that has been them from the beginning.harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
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This is a good and comforting argument. I guess the first time I started to feel they were derivative now was Yield.stip wrote:pearl jam has never been 'original' and other than vedder never really had a sound all their own. they are a distillation of a wide array of musical influences rather than their own voice (again, outside Eddie). That's one of the reasons why you get so many styles of songs from them, and people will find themselves enjoying songs that are related to genres and approaches they are otherwise not really interested in .harmless wrote:Has it? It would make me feel a lot better if I felt that.stip wrote:that has been them from the beginning.harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
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well even though I believe what i wrote, there are still times they are branching out into newer territory than others, for sure.
I've never cared if something is new or not, though--just whether it was good.
I've never cared if something is new or not, though--just whether it was good.
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Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
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When they talk about their creative process it reminds me of a composer taking a brief from a client.harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
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I like when they talk about the process. I just like it better when the end product isn't so transparent to where we have already figured it out.harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
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Yeah, exactly this. We've responded to the brief, I think we've met it as best we could have. Overall success. It's weird.LetMeSleep wrote:When they talk about their creative process it reminds me of a composer taking a brief from a client.harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
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its not black and white. They seem to lean much heavier on their influences these days to the point their own unique sound barely registers.harmless wrote:This is a good and comforting argument. I guess the first time I started to feel they were derivative now was Yield.stip wrote:pearl jam has never been 'original' and other than vedder never really had a sound all their own. they are a distillation of a wide array of musical influences rather than their own voice (again, outside Eddie). That's one of the reasons why you get so many styles of songs from them, and people will find themselves enjoying songs that are related to genres and approaches they are otherwise not really interested in .harmless wrote:Has it? It would make me feel a lot better if I felt that.stip wrote:that has been them from the beginning.harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
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Also this.Thejambi wrote:I like when they talk about the process. I just like it better when the end product isn't so transparent to where we have already figured it out.harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
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heh. yeah.Thejambi wrote:I like when they talk about the process. I just like it better when the end product isn't so transparent to where we have already figured it out.harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
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