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Mind Your Manners

5 Stars
85
31%
4 Stars
117
43%
3 Stars
37
14%
2 Stars
23
8%
1 Star
10
4%
 
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Heathen wrote:it sounds better here than on the actual song
I was actually thinking that the video really highlighted how weak of a riff it is.
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That too. It's clearly recycled.
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theplatypus wrote:
Heathen wrote:it sounds better here than on the actual song
I was actually thinking that the video really highlighted how weak of a riff it is.
I'm only talking about the sound
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i suspect we will get a lot more. such a nastier song the way he played it there
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My thinking is that a mediocre riff is better than no riff. For the last couple of albums we've had nothing but boring thrashing around with open chords, because they wanted to 'sound like The Who' or whatever that is.
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I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
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the main riff is stuff we have heard before. i wish they did more with that opening part.

still really like this song. solid 4 stars
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harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
that has been them from the beginning.
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stip wrote:
harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
that has been them from the beginning.
Has it? It would make me feel a lot better if I felt that.
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stip wrote:i wish they did more with that opening part.
This. I like that part. Maybe I should revise my vote now.
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harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
that has been them from the beginning.
Has it? It would make me feel a lot better if I felt that.
pearl jam has never been 'original' and other than vedder never really had a sound all their own. they are a distillation of a wide array of musical influences rather than their own voice (again, outside Eddie). That's one of the reasons why you get so many styles of songs from them, and people will find themselves enjoying songs that are related to genres and approaches they are otherwise not really interested in .
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stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
that has been them from the beginning.
Has it? It would make me feel a lot better if I felt that.
pearl jam has never been 'original' and other than vedder never really had a sound all their own. they are a distillation of a wide array of musical influences rather than their own voice (again, outside Eddie). That's one of the reasons why you get so many styles of songs from them, and people will find themselves enjoying songs that are related to genres and approaches they are otherwise not really interested in .
This is a good and comforting argument. I guess the first time I started to feel they were derivative now was Yield.
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well even though I believe what i wrote, there are still times they are branching out into newer territory than others, for sure.

I've never cared if something is new or not, though--just whether it was good.
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Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
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harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
When they talk about their creative process it reminds me of a composer taking a brief from a client.
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harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
I like when they talk about the process. I just like it better when the end product isn't so transparent to where we have already figured it out.
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LetMeSleep wrote:
harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
When they talk about their creative process it reminds me of a composer taking a brief from a client.
Yeah, exactly this. We've responded to the brief, I think we've met it as best we could have. Overall success. It's weird.
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harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:I just find it slightly disturbing that every time they talk about writing a song they refer to other bands they wanted it to sound like. It's like they feel nothing about writing as Pearl Jam anymore. They have nothing to say.
that has been them from the beginning.
Has it? It would make me feel a lot better if I felt that.
pearl jam has never been 'original' and other than vedder never really had a sound all their own. they are a distillation of a wide array of musical influences rather than their own voice (again, outside Eddie). That's one of the reasons why you get so many styles of songs from them, and people will find themselves enjoying songs that are related to genres and approaches they are otherwise not really interested in .
This is a good and comforting argument. I guess the first time I started to feel they were derivative now was Yield.
its not black and white. They seem to lean much heavier on their influences these days to the point their own unique sound barely registers.
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Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
I like when they talk about the process. I just like it better when the end product isn't so transparent to where we have already figured it out.
Also this.
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Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:Yeah, me too. But I guess if someone isn't trying anything new I'd prefer to not hear them talk about it. I think I just dislike the way they talk about their process.
I like when they talk about the process. I just like it better when the end product isn't so transparent to where we have already figured it out.
heh. yeah.
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