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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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bluestate wrote:Damn, this is horrible.

I've defended the last few albums quite a lot and feel like they were too underappreciated. I routinely find myself enjoying Backspacer and Lightning Bolt enough to appreciate them for what they are but THIS?! THIS IS PATHETIC.
this is a baffling opinion to me
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:Ed's voice is surprisingly all right here. I had all but written him off.
Ed is tearing up all sorts of shit in this one. :bammer:
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Release_Me wrote:Hi folks. Just listened to the new single so thought I'd share my initial feelings.

Opening verse, Ed sounds like Chris Cornell. I like that. I also like the fact that even though the song isn't that long, it moves along at a reasonable pace instead of million miles an hour which I don't like personally. Song has groove and Ed sounds cool; his vocal screams attitude. I like the contrast between the verses and the chorus. I would not like this song to be the musical template for a new album (I prefer fully fleshed out, 4-5 minutes songs) but it sounds fresh and I like most things about it after a few listens.

For those who are hating on it, your ignorance is sinful.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bluestate wrote:Damn, this is horrible.

I've defended the last few albums quite a lot and feel like they were too underappreciated. I routinely find myself enjoying Backspacer and Lightning Bolt enough to appreciate them for what they are but THIS?! THIS IS PATHETIC.
this is a baffling opinion to me
Me too. The last two albums suck equally to this.
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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bada wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bluestate wrote:Damn, this is horrible.

I've defended the last few albums quite a lot and feel like they were too underappreciated. I routinely find myself enjoying Backspacer and Lightning Bolt enough to appreciate them for what they are but THIS?! THIS IS PATHETIC.
this is a baffling opinion to me
Me too. The last two albums suck equally to this.
this opinion i can understand
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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Monkey_Driven wrote:
Release_Me wrote:Hi folks. Just listened to the new single so thought I'd share my initial feelings.

Opening verse, Ed sounds like Chris Cornell. I like that. I also like the fact that even though the song isn't that long, it moves along at a reasonable pace instead of million miles an hour which I don't like personally. Song has groove and Ed sounds cool; his vocal screams attitude. I like the contrast between the verses and the chorus. I would not like this song to be the musical template for a new album (I prefer fully fleshed out, 4-5 minutes songs) but it sounds fresh and I like most things about it after a few listens.

For those who are hating on it, your ignorance is sinful.
I thought it was Chris at first.
I knew I wasn't the only one! Perhaps this is a political Chris Cornell tribute. I'm digging it more with every listen. I'm down with this type of song more than Bushleaguer. Lyrics aren't as important as the way they're delivered. Something about the singing here that makes Ed sound young.
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Release_Me wrote:Lyrics aren't as important as the way they're delivered.
I hear ya. I have a sick tattoo that describes the vocal delivery of a song that means a lot to me.
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
Release_Me wrote:Hi folks. Just listened to the new single so thought I'd share my initial feelings.

Opening verse, Ed sounds like Chris Cornell. I like that. I also like the fact that even though the song isn't that long, it moves along at a reasonable pace instead of million miles an hour which I don't like personally. Song has groove and Ed sounds cool; his vocal screams attitude. I like the contrast between the verses and the chorus. I would not like this song to be the musical template for a new album (I prefer fully fleshed out, 4-5 minutes songs) but it sounds fresh and I like most things about it after a few listens.

For those who are hating on it, your ignorance is sinful.
I thought it was Chris at first.
Me too.
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What I can make out of the lyrics is pretty embarrassing
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I actually like this. Way better than anything on LB.
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Simple Torture wrote:
Release_Me wrote:Lyrics aren't as important as the way they're delivered.
I hear ya. I have a sick tattoo that describes the vocal delivery of a song that means a lot to me.
:lol:
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Wow 5 years for this? Jeez. I am cringing.
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I can hear the CC connections. I didn't notice it on my first two listens, but going in looking for it it's pretty clear.
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not particularly feeling this one.
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darth_vedder wrote:Just in time for March Madness '18!
Anyone get the sense this was a Soundgarden song and that it's a tribute? I mean the lyrics and singing style... This is right in Cc's baileywick.

It's a different, interesting sound at least.
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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Guys, it's a Christmas single...

Better than Ole.
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The best I can make out:

and now you want me to breathe
and be so grateful
oh, for the air that I need
don't make me pitiful (?)
and in the mornin' light
we're just the same, you and me
I'm on the ghosts... (?)
a propensity to breathe

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
you may be rich, but you can't deny me
got nothin', got nothin' but the will to survive
you can't control and you can't deny me
your eyes are sick, they're sick and they're vile (?)
you can't deny me

try to talk down to me
my mind, it ain't so simple
where's your vocabulary?
your ignorance is sinful
you plant your liar seeds
watch as the roots take hold
the country you are now poisoning
condition critical

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
I know it's true and you can't deny me
nothin', got nothin', you've got nothin' to hide
let the bullshit walk (?)
and you can't deny me
the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
your souls are sick and you can't deny me

you can't deny me
you can't deny me
you don't define me
you can't deny me

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
you know you're sick and you can't deny me
got nothin', just nothin', you've got somethin' to hide
we see right through you and you can't deny me
darkness, darkness, darkness and light
you can't deny me
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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Oversize wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Just in time for March Madness '18!
Anyone get the sense this was a Soundgarden song and that it's a tribute? I mean the lyrics and singing style... This is right in Cc's baileywick.

It's a different, interesting sound at least.
I now see this wasnt an original thought... Glad I wasn't crazy to think that on first listen.
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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This doesn't sound like Soundgarden at all and the anti-Trump lyrics are pure Eddie.
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:The best I can make out:

and now you want me to breathe
and be so grateful
oh, for the air that I need
don't make me pitiful (?)
and in the mornin' light
we're just the same, you and me
I'm on the ghosts... (?)
a propensity to breathe

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
you may be rich, but you can't deny me
got nothin', got nothin' but the will to survive
you can't control and you can't deny me
your eyes are sick, they're sick and they're vile (?)
you can't deny me

try to talk down to me
my mind, it ain't so simple
where's your vocabulary?
your ignorance is sinful
you plant your liar seeds
watch as the roots take hold
the country you are now poisoning
condition critical

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
I know it's true and you can't deny me
nothin', got nothin', you've got nothin' to hide
let the bullshit walk (?)
and you can't deny me
the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
your souls are sick and you can't deny me

you can't deny me
you can't deny me
you don't define me
you can't deny me

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
you know you're sick and you can't deny me
got nothin', just nothin', you've got somethin' to hide
we see right through you and you can't deny me
darkness, darkness, darkness and light
you can't deny me

That's probably pretty close. The chorus lyrics need another pass but they're pretty close to being good. The verse has the Bu$hleaguer/No More problem (more the later) when Eddie feels so passionate about something so obvious that he has no artful way to phrase it.
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