Can't Deny Me

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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:My thoughts now are that they probably didn’t want a political track dating an album like Bushleaguer did.
i feel like it's the opposite end of the spectrum as Bushleaguer. that song was very pointed and stubborn in nature, even calling out who it was about in the title. this song is a political song without being political. it's purposefully vague so it can be interpreted in any way the listener wants. it never names anyone... the closest it gets is the phrase "the country you are representing". someone who hates Trump can say this is about Trump. someone in the #MeToo movement can say this is about a male oppressor. someone in the Black Lives Matter group can say it's about the white man (but who in the BLM group is listening to PJ), a pacifist can say this is about the NRA, an employee sick of their boss, etc etc. it's an inoffensive, generic protest that never excludes anyone. maybe its weakness lies within its vagueness.
It’s extremely obviously about Trump, man
well, i mean, yeah that's how i interpret it too. but my wife interpreted it as a #MeToo message (well, the parts she could decipher), which never even crossed my brain bc i'm a pig
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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Your wife is wrong
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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The second verse is pretty clearly about Trump. The first verse I can see the #metoo part.
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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Did someone transcribe the lyrics?
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Monkey_Driven wrote:Did someone transcribe the lyrics?
http://www.pearljamonline.it/pj-wp/pear ... nt-deny-me
And now you want me to breathe
And I'm so grateful
Oh, for the air that I need
Haha, do not make me pitiful

And in the morning light
We're just the same you and me You have
all the ghosts of officials
propensity to breed

The higher
The farther
The faster you fly
You may be rich but you can not deny me

Got nothing, got nothing but the will to survive
You can not control
And you can not deny me
Your eyes are sick
You're sick and defiant
You can not deny me!

You try to talk down to me
My mind it is not so simple
Where's your vocabulary
Your ignorance is sinful

You plant your seeds liar's
Watch as the roots take hold
The country you are now poisoning
Condition critical!

The higher
The farther
The faster you fly
I know it's true, and you can not deny me
Got nothing, got nothing, you got nothing to hide
Let the bullshit walk
And you can not deny me

The higher
The farther
The faster you fly
His soul is so sick
And you can not deny me!

You can not deny me
You can not deny me
You do not defy me
You can not deny me

The higher
The farther
The faster you fly
You know you're sick
And you can not deny me!

Got nothing, just nothing, you got something to hide
We see you right through you
And you can not deny me!

Darkness, darkness, darkness alike
You can not deny me
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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Monkey_Driven wrote:Did someone transcribe the lyrics?
This is what I have for the first verse:
And now you want me to queeeeef
It'd be so taste-pho
The stanky air that I neeeeed
Haha, don’t make me sit on you

And while we bleep at night
We’re just the same you and me
And all the ghosts of our butthoes
Have propensity to breed

The harder
The deeper
The faster you thrust
You're friggin' huge, get in-side my butt, yeah

Got nothing, got nothing but pumpin' in stride
You plow my hole,
And you can’t deny me!
Your wang is sick
You’re sick and defiant
You can’t deny me!
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT? CAN'T DENY ME. TONIGHT.

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If this ends up being nothing, I'll merge it back into the Can't Deny Me Thread.

... but if it's an announcement, it deserves its own thread.
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:My thoughts now are that they probably didn’t want a political track dating an album like Bushleaguer did.
i feel like it's the opposite end of the spectrum as Bushleaguer. that song was very pointed and stubborn in nature, even calling out who it was about in the title. this song is a political song without being political. it's purposefully vague so it can be interpreted in any way the listener wants. it never names anyone... the closest it gets is the phrase "the country you are representing". someone who hates Trump can say this is about Trump. someone in the #MeToo movement can say this is about a male oppressor. someone in the Black Lives Matter group can say it's about the white man (but who in the BLM group is listening to PJ), a pacifist can say this is about the NRA, an employee sick of their boss, etc etc. it's an inoffensive, generic protest that never excludes anyone. maybe its weakness lies within its vagueness.
It’s extremely obviously about Trump, man
A song can also be generic and derive a lot of its power from that as long as it has something insightful to say (Grievance, for instance). the lyrics don't fail the song because they've vague. They fail because they don't help the listener understand their own experiences.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT? CAN'T DENY ME. TONIGHT.

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What if the fan club single is a demo?
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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LetMeSleep wrote:I love everything about this track except the actual track.

The production is rough and the performances aren’t perfect. It takes courage to release something this unpolished at this stage of their careers.
I don’t know about this, I think it’s as polished as anything on Backspacer or Lightning Bolt, it’s just adopting a different aesthetic. There’s little genuinely raw about the way it sounds to me.

Around and Around off the 2016 single is a lot closer to what I’d consider a pleasantly raw recording.
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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scrub12 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Did someone transcribe the lyrics?
http://www.pearljamonline.it/pj-wp/pear ... nt-deny-me
And now you want me to breathe
And I'm so grateful
Oh, for the air that I need
Haha, do not make me pitiful

And in the morning light
We're just the same you and me You have
all the ghosts of officials
propensity to breed

The higher
The farther
The faster you fly
You may be rich but you can not deny me

Got nothing, got nothing but the will to survive
You can not control
And you can not deny me
Your eyes are sick
You're sick and defiant
You can not deny me!

You try to talk down to me
My mind it is not so simple
Where's your vocabulary
Your ignorance is sinful

You plant your seeds liar's
Watch as the roots take hold
The country you are now poisoning
Condition critical!

The higher
The farther
The faster you fly
I know it's true, and you can not deny me
Got nothing, got nothing, you got nothing to hide
Let the bullshit walk
And you can not deny me

The higher
The farther
The faster you fly
His soul is so sick
And you can not deny me!

You can not deny me
You can not deny me
You do not defy me
You can not deny me

The higher
The farther
The faster you fly
You know you're sick
And you can not deny me!

Got nothing, just nothing, you got something to hide
We see you right through you
And you can not deny me!

Darkness, darkness, darkness alike
You can not deny me
I’m too lazy to do it myself so found this.
Some of those are definitely wrong. This is what I got on page 5:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:The best I can make out:

and now you want me to breathe
and be so grateful
oh, for the air that I need
don't make me pitiful (?)
and in the mornin' light
we're just the same, you and me
I'm on the ghosts... (?)
a propensity to breathe

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
you may be rich, but you can't deny me
got nothin', got nothin' but the will to survive
you can't control and you can't deny me
your eyes are sick, they're sick and they're vile (?)
you can't deny me

try to talk down to me
my mind, it ain't so simple
where's your vocabulary?
your ignorance is sinful
you plant your liar seeds
watch as the roots take hold
the country you are now poisoning
condition critical

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
I know it's true and you can't deny me
nothin', got nothin', you've got nothin' to hide
let the bullshit walk (?)
and you can't deny me
the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
your souls are sick and you can't deny me

you can't deny me
you can't deny me
you don't define me
you can't deny me

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
you know you're sick and you can't deny me
got nothin', just nothin', you've got somethin' to hide
we see right through you and you can't deny me
darkness, darkness, darkness and light
you can't deny me
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT? CAN'T DENY ME. TONIGHT.

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Monkey_Driven wrote:What if the fan club single is a demo?
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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i think we're getting closer, but made a few tweaks
LoathedVermin72 wrote:The best I can make out:

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and be so grateful
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don't make me pitiful (?)
and in the mornin' light
we're just the same, you and me
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a propensity to breathe

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
you may bBUY MERCHe rich, but you can't deny me
got nothin', got nothin' but the will to survive
you can't control and you can't deny me
yourSURFS UP eyes are sick, they're sick and they're vile (?)
you can't deny me

try to talk down to me
my mind, it ain't so simple
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your ignorance is sinful
you plant your liar seeds
watch asWAVES WAVES WAVES the roots take hold
the country you are now poisoning
condition critical

the higher, the farther, the faster you fly
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nothin', got nothin', you've got nothin' to hide
let the bullshit walk (?)
and you can't deny me
the higADMIRE MY CARSher, the farther, the faster you fly
your souls are sick and you can't deny me

you can deny me
you can deny me
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you can deny me

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got nothin', just nothin', you've got somethin' to hide
we see right through you and you can't deny me
darkness, darknBUY MERCHess, darkness and light
you can't deny me
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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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My phone desperately wants me to type "You Can't Dent Me"
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I do not like this one bit. I guess the chorus is okay, the verse might be one of the worst things the band has done.
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I don’t hate it yet, but I probably will.
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i am warming to it, mostly because of the off-color replacement lyrics i have come up with for it in my head
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT? CAN'T DENY ME. TONIGHT.

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Shouldn't something have happened by now? Or do they still operate under the falsehood that Pacific time is relevant?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT? CAN'T DENY ME. TONIGHT.

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Yeah it’s a little late. Was wondering if they were gonna pop up on a late night show but remembered they’re in South America. Wonder if something just shows up on Spotify or something.
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