Can't Deny Me

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Re: Can't Deny Me (2017 Christmas Single)

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Once again, thank you, Stip, a voice of reason here. Good post above.

After watching that live performance and the context of dedicating it to the students, coupled with Ed drumming, the song rises a bit. The verses sound good live, but man, that chorus is a mess.

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it’s just sad because these guys are capable of so much more

TOTD reunion was so tight. They played Achilles flawlessly

and then they produce this shit
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96583UP wrote:it’s just sad because these guys are capable of so much more

TOTD reunion was so tight. They played Achilles flawlessly

and then they produce this shit
Yeah, that's proof that it's Ed's fault
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
96583UP wrote:it’s just sad because these guys are capable of so much more

TOTD reunion was so tight. They played Achilles flawlessly

and then they produce this shit
Yeah, that's proof that it's Ed's fault
and that ZEPPELIN RULED
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There’s no getting away from the mediocrity of the writing. Even if premium era Pearl Jam had laid this one down in the studio, it’s best case scenario would be as a b-side we all rank among the least revisitable b-sides.
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Coach wrote:After watching that live performance and the context of dedicating it to the students...the song rises a bit.
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McParadigm wrote:lol
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Simple Torture wrote:
Coach wrote:After watching that live performance and the context of dedicating it to the students...the song rises a bit.
"What's a Pearl Jam?" -every high school student in America
:P
Well, once the neveragain leaders see 10 million fans on FB and the meet-and-greet auction for the school... they will become real familiar, which a great thing. They should leverage the band to spread the word and raise money.
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Coach wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Coach wrote:After watching that live performance and the context of dedicating it to the students...the song rises a bit.
"What's a Pearl Jam?" -every high school student in America
:P
Well, once the neveragain leaders see 10 million fans on FB and the meet-and-greet auction for the school... they will become real familiar, which a great thing. They should leverage the band to spread the word and raise money.
kinda weird it's not a meet and greet of the whole band?
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bodysnatcher wrote:
Coach wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Coach wrote:After watching that live performance and the context of dedicating it to the students...the song rises a bit.
"What's a Pearl Jam?" -every high school student in America
:P
Well, once the neveragain leaders see 10 million fans on FB and the meet-and-greet auction for the school... they will become real familiar, which a great thing. They should leverage the band to spread the word and raise money.
kinda weird it's not a meet and greet of the whole band?
logistics; probably easier to just herd one member vs all of 'em
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Coach wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Coach wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Coach wrote:After watching that live performance and the context of dedicating it to the students...the song rises a bit.
"What's a Pearl Jam?" -every high school student in America
:P
Well, once the neveragain leaders see 10 million fans on FB and the meet-and-greet auction for the school... they will become real familiar, which a great thing. They should leverage the band to spread the word and raise money.
kinda weird it's not a meet and greet of the whole band?
logistics; probably easier to just herd one member vs all of 'em
over/under on how high this thing goes?
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What on earth are you guys even talking about.
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McParadigm wrote:What on earth are you guys even talking about.
https://pearljam.com/news/auction-meet- ... r-and-more
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McParadigm wrote:There’s no getting away from the mediocrity of the writing. Even if premium era Pearl Jam had laid this one down in the studio, it’s best case scenario would be as a b-side we all rank among the least revisitable b-sides.
the music and performance has grown on me a little bit, but McP is probably right. And unlike a song like Got Some, where the lyrics are there just to give Ed something to do with his voice, this song invites you to pay attention to them
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The new one is okay, I think Mind You Manners is way better if we're comparing newer, short/punky PJ tunes. While it's great to hear Ed again this one sounds forced, where I thought he actually sounded pretty fresh with MYM. I definitely like the production of the new one though, way better than anything on LB. Hoping the rest of the album is better, excitement meter still high...
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Might do better as just a track in the middle of an album than it does as a single tho.

Also I think the vocal performance on the studio take is fine. He shrieks and yelps like a scrapper. It’s just the extreme wordiness of the writing and the very tepid hooks that hurt the vocal performance.
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It'll be one of the first "1,2,3 punch" opening tracks before a ballad.
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:It'll be one of the first "1,2,3 punch" opening tracks before a ballad.
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It's probably the lead track on the album

the rest will be sentimental casio keyboard tracks written by BOB

except one, which is just an accidental voicemail left by stone while ordering thai food - it will be hailed by the jamily as genius, but then voted off immediately in the first round of PJ survivor march madness
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Live performance was actually pretty good.
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This one has grown on me honestly quite a bit. Yeah Eddie sounds strained at times but I don’t mind that. It makes it feel less over produced to me. Cameron sounds great on this one. It is like a Soundgarden drumbeat. It is immediate and aggressive. It feels real to me. I love the tempo especially, very sludgy. There is a weird cut before the outro that sounds like an edit to my ears. I do agree this is missing a nice Mike solo. In fact the song is so short I would love a minute or so solo towards the end of the track before the outro. Yeah it could be better but it could be a lot worse.
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