Sharing Cinematic Values #6: tragabigzanda

[LoathedVermin72]

For the record, I did not call it a “snowflake millennial movie.”

[VinylGuy]

No, thats me of course.

[VinylGuy]

Trag´s voice reminds me of Steve Albini.

[VinylGuy]

BONE TOMAHAWK.

[VinylGuy]

I agree with the views on both Bone Tomahawk and Brawl. I actually adore that both movies look that way. I hope he continues that way with the new one....and yes, he does a great job with Vince Vaughn.

Man he will be with Mel Gibson in the next one....

[epilogue]

Listening right now. This will be awesome.

I love LV´s take on Moonlight. I agree so much...its such a snowflake millennial movie.

[ABNorman]

I should listen to these at some point, but I feel weird about you guys having actual voices.

[epilogue]

I should listen to these at some point, but I feel weird about you guys having actual voices.

That's fair

[VinylGuy]

I love the talk about what an auteur is or isnt.
Really cool. Kinda sad Trag dont like Nicolas Winding Refn ´s movies.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[VinylGuy]

I dont think Transformers is a good example of an artist making a very good crafted movie and giving it all...They basically use a lot of the same shots in their movies. The first one might be alright maybe? Just too fucking long.
I like Bay well enough, but that franchise is the worst thing he did by far.

[VinylGuy]

Oh and Bay concept of action edition is not my cup of tea.
He could learn more from guys like John McTiernan for example in that department.

[VinylGuy]

Listening right now. This will be awesome.

I love LV´s take on Moonlight. I agree so much...its such a snowflake millennial movie.

that's not true, sorry if it came across that way. the only one i've seen is Drive and i liked it very much.

Cool! You should see Neon Demon.

[VinylGuy]

The Jurassic Park and Die Hard references are...

I agree so much with that. I want to see those two now.

[VinylGuy]

Just finished.

Another great ep, two guys talking about cinema and music, what they like and dislike and of course, the importance of art in modern world.

I would say SCV is one of my favorite art related podcasts out there.

Trag rules by the way.

[LoathedVermin72]

Thanks, VG!

[epilogue]

I would say SCV is one of my favorite art related podcasts out there.

Totally agree.

[LoathedVermin72]

I dont think Transformers is a good example of an artist making a very good crafted movie and giving it all...They basically use a lot of the same shots in their movies. The first one might be alright maybe? Just too fucking long.
I like Bay well enough, but that franchise is the worst thing he did by far.

I had a lot of issues with the series at first, but now I think it’s one of his greatest accomplishments. His action really can’t be viewed as “action” in the McTiernan sense, IMO; it’s avant-garde poetry. No one cuts and frames like he does. The combat sequences in 13 Hours are some transcendent, ethereal shit.

[epilogue]

Verm, I don't think what you're talking about or responding to is the level of passion in the director or the maker. In fact, I'm 100% sure it isn't.

[epilogue]

But it's more than just "visuals." You respond to CERTAIN visuals. We all do.