The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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his grasp on geoplitics is so small i'm ok with Pence.
But Bolten as NSA is perhaps going to be Trump's biggest crime.,
But Bolten as NSA is perhaps going to be Trump's biggest crime.,
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Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
(patriotic choking noises)
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McParadigm wrote:Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
wow. DHS...another department not following orders?
trump is not the boss, he's an elected official....I wonder when he realize that? and that he's not above the law?
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More likely it's just Bolton clearing house of anyone who might stand in the way of his war party.Noangel wrote:McParadigm wrote:Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
wow. DHS...another department not following orders?
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that's scary. dysfunction was a good thing.....war hawks ignored, trump pretending at president. If Bolten has no leash it could get bad.tragabigzanda wrote:More likely it's just Bolton clearing house of anyone who might stand in the way of his war party.Noangel wrote:McParadigm wrote:Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
wow. DHS...another department not following orders?
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I have no doubt they'll be killing people in Syria inside of two weeks. The bigger question is whether or not the blowback + Mueller will be enough to avert all-out war.Noangel wrote:that's scary. dysfunction was a good thing.....war hawks ignored, trump pretending at president. If Bolten has no leash it could get bad.tragabigzanda wrote:More likely it's just Bolton clearing house of anyone who might stand in the way of his war party.Noangel wrote:McParadigm wrote:Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
wow. DHS...another department not following orders?
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Now confirmed.tragabigzanda wrote:More likely it's just Bolton clearing house of anyone who might stand in the way of his war party.Noangel wrote:McParadigm wrote:Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
wow. DHS...another department not following orders?
(patriotic choking noises)
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lol, I am not half the politico that McP is; this shit is just way too obvious.McParadigm wrote:Now confirmed.tragabigzanda wrote:More likely it's just Bolton clearing house of anyone who might stand in the way of his war party.Noangel wrote:McParadigm wrote:Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
wow. DHS...another department not following orders?
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is Zuck's testimony today going to be broadcast or made public at a later date? Would love to tune in.
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tragabigzanda wrote:I have no doubt they'll be killing people in Syria inside of two weeks. The bigger question is whether or not the blowback + Mueller will be enough to avert all-out war.Noangel wrote:that's scary. dysfunction was a good thing.....war hawks ignored, trump pretending at president. If Bolten has no leash it could get bad.tragabigzanda wrote:More likely it's just Bolton clearing house of anyone who might stand in the way of his war party.Noangel wrote:McParadigm wrote:Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
wow. DHS...another department not following orders?
Drones are already bombing. In April of 2017 US led airstrikes killed more people in Syria than Assad, Russia, and the rebels, in a 30 day period. US has been involved the whole time. with a history of false flags....this chemical attack...which makes no sense militarily and gives the US incentive to step up the bombing....i'm not gonna dismiss US involvement, even in the chemical attack
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As the rest of this week's news cycle focuses on Mueller/Cohen, watch for Bolton to be quietly preparing for his war party in the background.
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there are Chinese warships in the Mediterranean ..
so of course Trump is gonna go for war to derail mueller
it'll be fine..
so of course Trump is gonna go for war to derail mueller
it'll be fine..
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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The Target is Iran. I hope the lessons learned from Iraq are at least presented in some kind of meaningful way. They are pushing in on Gaza and Palestine.....That needs be made public as well. Hamas is training thousands of troops in Syria...Trumps nepotism and his desire to pawn off the middle east to his son, they will be in for more than he knows when the Palestinians step up to defend Gaza. I read violence has already started, Israeli killing 13.tragabigzanda wrote:As the rest of this week's news cycle focuses on Mueller/Cohen, watch for Bolton to be quietly preparing for his war party in the background.
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What a time to be alive
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If Assad is trying to crush the rebels and bring this civil war to a close, it seems all of these atrocities make sense from his perspective.Noangel wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I have no doubt they'll be killing people in Syria inside of two weeks. The bigger question is whether or not the blowback + Mueller will be enough to avert all-out war.Noangel wrote:that's scary. dysfunction was a good thing.....war hawks ignored, trump pretending at president. If Bolten has no leash it could get bad.tragabigzanda wrote:More likely it's just Bolton clearing house of anyone who might stand in the way of his war party.Noangel wrote:McParadigm wrote:Not sure the degree to which changeover even feels like a story anymore, but Bossert is confirmed out.
wow. DHS...another department not following orders?
Drones are already bombing. In April of 2017 US led airstrikes killed more people in Syria than Assad, Russia, and the rebels, in a 30 day period. US has been involved the whole time. with a history of false flags....this chemical attack...which makes no sense militarily and gives the US incentive to step up the bombing....i'm not gonna dismiss US involvement, even in the chemical attack
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Bi_3, I'm a couple days late to this discussion, but your thoughts in this section really baffled me. Trag, I appreciate you putting a little fixin' on his post. The privilege isn't being able to spend time on others, it is being able to ignore things that deeply effect others.tragabigzanda wrote:FTFYBi_3 wrote:It's a powerful example of empathy to be able to spend time any significant amount of time caring about things that don't effect you.tragabigzanda wrote:Agreed, this is the reality of your privilege and understandably effects your outlook on POTUS. But it's also a toxic sort of willful ignorance to say "These things that negatively impact billions of people won't impact me too directly, so I'm not too worried about it." That's the philosophy that saw one of my family members vote for Trump ("my personal tax rate > all other issues").Bi_3 wrote:FTFY.tragabigzanda wrote:Come on, it's plain to see that a lot of his actions -- regulatory rollbacks, deportations, attacking the press, his trade war, his embrace of racists and jingoists -- are immediately anger-inducing and depressing because weBi_3 wrote:It's a function of privilege. My area is mostly upper-middle class white (~50%) and Asian (~35%) and has an average household income close to $200k, so even though I'm not rich like them, the halo effect insulates my family since those aren't the groups being negatively effected by Trump's behavior. There is obviously frustration over his not-so-hidden bigotry and expressions of embarrassment that he is our representative on the world stage, but the day to day is no different than it was under Obama or W.jwfocker wrote:
That's the only difference? WTF? What myopic fantasy land do you live in and how does one visit?
What, specifically, has he done that has negatively effected you?knowsuspect that the eventual outcomes of these actions are going to be very shitty if nothing is done to reverse it.
Eventually is the key word. And I think it depends on what you worry about. I am far more concerned about the unchecked rise of AI in the labor market and my kids competing against the genetically engineered offspring of the ultra-rich than I am about DAPL or the enforcement of immigration laws. That's clearly privilege, but it's also reality.
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When Bi_3's COOOOOOLD, I wanna put a little fire on 'im.
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If Assad is trying to crush the rebels and bring this civil war to a close, it seems all of these atrocities make sense from his perspective.
not really. The rebels are done....Russia and Assad have made sure of that. The only possible outcome Assad sows from dropping chemical bombs on his own people is to stir up the opposition....its propaganda gold, and a very real incentive for the American public to get behind an increase in US actions in Syria.
Militarily it makes no sense....in fact, the only faction that really benefits from it is the US.
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Important piece from December that is worth a read today:
Why it’s Far Worse for Trump to Fire Rosenstein than to Fire Mueller
https://www.justsecurity.org/49847/its- ... e-mueller/
Why it’s Far Worse for Trump to Fire Rosenstein than to Fire Mueller
https://www.justsecurity.org/49847/its- ... e-mueller/