America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

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I live in a hunting community...bow hunting, deer, moose, elk, bear, lions....



and I can promise you there is absolutely no need for assault rifles. None.
There's plenty for all.
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The Cohen charges of illegal campaign contributions make me wonder if the NRA could be in any trouble with their Russian donations.
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Threat on my kids' school, technically the high school next to his middle school, yesterday. Attendance was only 50% today even with police swarming the area all day.

No shooting.
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B wrote:Threat on my kids' school, technically the high school next to his middle school, yesterday. Attendance was only 50% today even with police swarming the area all day.

No shooting.

Terrifying. I'm betting this is going to become more and more frequent in the future.
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In the county I work, they’ve shut schools down and let them out early 3 times since the Florida shooting due to threats. I think one kid actually had a gun in one case.
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yeah..more guns are not the solution...
There's plenty for all.
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Here's what I believe to be an example of what I was talking to a friend about last week: the gun owner who is just salivating at the chance to shoot someone. Black kid at the door asking for directions? Grab the shotgun and start shooting as he runs away!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/us/m ... tions.html
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meatwad wrote:Here's what I believe to be an example of what I was talking to a friend about last week: the gun owner who is just salivating at the chance to shoot someone. Black kid at the door asking for directions? Grab the shotgun and start shooting as he runs away!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/us/m ... tions.html
Self-defense is not as common as gun-owners and gun-defenders would lead us to believe:

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/fire ... gun-use-2/
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elliseamos wrote:
meatwad wrote:Here's what I believe to be an example of what I was talking to a friend about last week: the gun owner who is just salivating at the chance to shoot someone. Black kid at the door asking for directions? Grab the shotgun and start shooting as he runs away!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/us/m ... tions.html
Self-defense is not as common as gun-owners and gun-defenders would lead us to believe:

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/fire ... gun-use-2/

What would be a good number for you? 100,000 times a year? 500,000?
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It's not about what the number is, it's about the fact that it's nowhere near what is promoted by the pro-gun side of this conversation.

The individual (Hemenway) at the head of the link explains how the myth of the self-defending gun owner is just that, a myth.
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I've said it before, but the main thing having a gun in your house does is massively increase the chances that someone in your household will be injured/killed by that gun.
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Orpheus wrote:I've said it before, but the main thing having a gun in your house does is massively increase the chances that someone in your household will be injured/killed by that gun.
Yes, I think that's mentioned in the Harvard link I posted.
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This is why I consistently believe that it is going to take a massive culture change in order to reduce gun ownership. There needs to be more persuasion toward the idea that even if you have the right to own one, it may not be wise to own one if your goal is ownership for self defense purposes.
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Green Habit wrote:This is why I consistently believe that it is going to take a massive culture change in order to reduce gun ownership. There needs to be more persuasion toward the idea that even if you have the right to own one, it may not be wise to own one if your goal is ownership for self defense purposes.
Agreed.
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It will take generations for the culture to change, if ever, in rural areas. Gun culture is so engrained there.
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https://ghostgunner.net/
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I would say good luck in changing the culture , but its likely that social media and search companies will somehow come up with an algorithm that is 99% effective in blocking firearm related messages while allowing some number of child prostitution links to get through. (you know, priorities)

You can probably change the culture by censoring large swaths of content, at least that seems to be the current strategy.

Can you really call gun owners paranoid if this is your outspoken strategy, especially considering the financing aspect?
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Ah yes, gun control vs. child prostitution, a classic dichotomy
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