Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis?

[CopperTom]

Mega Man X to be rereleased on cartridge. And Mega Man 2.

[Ello Sailor]

SNES shits all over Genesis. How is this even a question?

[PHATJ]

SNES is one of my favorite systems ever.

[Monkey_Driven]

SNES shits all over Genesis. How is this even a question?

Nostalgia.

SNES has the better catalogue.

[CopperTom]

Genesis had a great catalogue too. It's just that Shining Force and Phantasy Star aren't as sexy as the the Square RPGs.

[run2death]

I think it really depends what percentage of your gaming involved sports titles.

Most sports games were better on Genesis.

I had several friends who basically only played NHL and Madden.

[Norah]

nhl on genesis was the shit

[CopperTom]

I think it really depends what percentage of your gaming involved sports titles.

Most sports games were better on Genesis.

I had several friends who basically only played NHL and Madden.

Yup. All the EA games played better on Genesis. I still play Coach K and NBA Live 96 each year. I loved the World Series Baseball series too - infinitely better than Griffey Baseball.

[CopperTom]

nhl on genesis was the shit

I loved NHL 95.

[PHATJ]

I think it really depends what percentage of your gaming involved sports titles.

Most sports games were better on Genesis.

I had several friends who basically only played NHL and Madden.

Yup. All the EA games played better on Genesis. I still play Coach K and NBA Live 96 each year. I loved the World Series Baseball series too - infinitely better than Griffey Baseball.

I fucking loved Griffey baseball.

[run2death]

I was never big on the NBA Live series despite being a huge basketball fan at the time.

In general, basketball games didn't start getting good until the 2K series came out.

Always felt like NBA Live was an afterthought for EA.

[run2death]

In hindsight, the NHL games would have been better without the cheap-ass double move on breakaways.

[run2death]

It meant that shitty players just had to master that one move to compete.

[bune]

Street Fighter 2 > Mortal Kombat

The kids I wasn't allowed to play with in elementary school all had Genesis. That's not why I wasn't allowed to play with them, but I think there's an interesting correlation there. Especially reading the type of RMers here who had Genesis. Bunch of drug abusing, nihilistic rogues. All of you.

yeah SNES was definitely the console for wimpy good guys.

When you hang out with a friend who has an SNES: "Here, let me show you this cool trick, if you go into the warp zone you can skip some of the harder levels."

When you hang out with a friend who has a Genesis: "Here, let me show you this cool trick, if we enter this cheat code we can rip this guy's still-beating heart out."

Who skips levels in Mario? newb.

[bune]

I think it really depends what percentage of your gaming involved sports titles.

Most sports games were better on Genesis.

I had several friends who basically only played NHL and Madden.

Yup. All the EA games played better on Genesis. I still play Coach K and NBA Live 96 each year. I loved the World Series Baseball series too - infinitely better than Griffey Baseball.

Have you read the book Console Wars? There's a part in there about EA and why their games played better on the Genesis. I'm trying to find a quote from the book but basically EA came to Sega and said, "Hey, we reverse-engineered your system. We're either going to release these games unlicensed, or you're going to help us out." Sega blinked.

OK, I couldn't find the quote form the book but this is pretty close:

When EA inquired about publishing its games on the Genesis, the executives felt their proposal would be met with open arms.

Instead of embracing the logic in EA’s proposal, Sega of America president Mike Katz had other ideas. Sega wanted to emulate the Nintendo licensing agreement system, leaving little to no negotiation room for third-party publishers.

The discussion went back and forth for nearly a year, until a Sega executive boldly told Bing Gordon, “If you want a different deal you’re going to have to reverse engineer the system, aren’t you?”

Sega had thrown down the gauntlet, and EA gladly picked it up. Under the guidance of its legal counsel, the company gave two of its most talented engineers the green light to attempt a clean room reverse engineering job on the Genesis.

...EA’s hardware group built several reverse engineered development systems. Unbeknownst to Sega, EA ramped up production on several Genesis games.

Sega was caught in an uncomfortable position. If EA went ahead with its licensing program, the console manufacturer would be losing a significant portion of the profit that traditionally comes with the territory. EA could essentially reach out to other publishers and offer better returns and cheaper manufacturing costs than Sega was willing to do.

In exchange for agreeing to join Sega’s licensing program, EA would be allowed to manufacture its own Genesis cartridges, could make as many games as it wanted, and received a more favorable royalty rate.

Heh. Here's a quote from the book I found that's funny in the context of the thread:

“You were either a Sega person or a Nintendo person; you couldn’t choose both.”
― Blake J. Harris, Console Wars: Sega, Nintendo, and the Battle that Defined a Generation

[BurtReynolds]

SNES had Bill Laimbeer's combat basketball.

Genesis had Mutant League Football.

No contest. Genesis wins.

[Norah]

But SNES had this:

[tree_]

SNES wins. SEGA sucks. I had it right all along. Kid me is officially vindicated.

[bada]

I had a Genesis. I didn’t know anyone that had a SNES so I missed out on all of that.

[PHATJ]

I think I might have to hook up the SNES this weekend and play some Contra II.