Avengers: Infinity War 2018
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Re: Avengers: Infinity War 2018
Yeah, I was right impressed with how the Black Order looked. They were awesome.
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Re: Avengers: Infinity War 2018
doone wrote:Yeah, I was right impressed with how the Black Order looked. They were awesome.
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I thought for sure this was gonna happen when Tony was fighting thanos at the endbada wrote:I don't know why but I think Black Panther's sister will be Ironheart one day.
I kinda still think this is gonna happen
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Monkey_Driven wrote:What are you even taking about here? The Marvel characters have had 18 movies prior to tell their backstories and establish relationships with one another. Movies the audience is expected to have seen prior to this. I don't really see the comparison at all. Snoke's death was shocking/funny/impactful because it moved the story forward for the main character of Kylo. He was never a main character. Outside of Gamora, the deaths in this film were random. Not the result of a choice, hubris, or specific action for most of these characters. We will see how the surviving characters deal with the fallout and maybe my opinion will change, but for now, it seems like a cop out.stip wrote:
In some ways this reminds me of some of the complaints about TLJ with Snoke's lack of backstory. Most characters who are not your primary antagonist/protagonist don't get backstories. We get nothing in the OT by way of backstory for Han Solo or Obi Wan or the Emperor or Even Vader (certainly not more than we got for Snoke). And that's fine because their backstories are not necessary for the story. But in a world of exhaustive wookiepedia entries for even the most minor of star wars characters we can bring with us the expectation that we should be able to interact with the characters in the film as encyclopedia entries rather than characters in a moment in service of a story. Snoke's backstory might be an interesting thing to learn about outside of the movie, but it doesn't necessarily belong in the movie. It's bringing in expectations that exist outside of the story and baking them into the story.
That people bring expectations/knowledge that can and should live outside of the storytelling narrative into their judgement and evaluation of the narrative. The 'deaths feel like a copout because I know some of these guys have movies coming out' What you were describing (and you're hardly the only person to say this) is an example of that phenomena, as was the Snoke complaint.
The randomness of those deaths was the point. Thanos says as much earlier in the movie - that his solution is random, arbitrary, and fair. It is the outcome he wanted. And within Infinity War Thanos was the protagonist/main character. It is his story.
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Thanks for better articulating your point. I actually enjoyed most of the movie.stip wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:What are you even taking about here? The Marvel characters have had 18 movies prior to tell their backstories and establish relationships with one another. Movies the audience is expected to have seen prior to this. I don't really see the comparison at all. Snoke's death was shocking/funny/impactful because it moved the story forward for the main character of Kylo. He was never a main character. Outside of Gamora, the deaths in this film were random. Not the result of a choice, hubris, or specific action for most of these characters. We will see how the surviving characters deal with the fallout and maybe my opinion will change, but for now, it seems like a cop out.stip wrote:
In some ways this reminds me of some of the complaints about TLJ with Snoke's lack of backstory. Most characters who are not your primary antagonist/protagonist don't get backstories. We get nothing in the OT by way of backstory for Han Solo or Obi Wan or the Emperor or Even Vader (certainly not more than we got for Snoke). And that's fine because their backstories are not necessary for the story. But in a world of exhaustive wookiepedia entries for even the most minor of star wars characters we can bring with us the expectation that we should be able to interact with the characters in the film as encyclopedia entries rather than characters in a moment in service of a story. Snoke's backstory might be an interesting thing to learn about outside of the movie, but it doesn't necessarily belong in the movie. It's bringing in expectations that exist outside of the story and baking them into the story.
That people bring expectations/knowledge that can and should live outside of the storytelling narrative into their judgement and evaluation of the narrative. The 'deaths feel like a copout because I know some of these guys have movies coming out' What you were describing (and you're hardly the only person to say this) is an example of that phenomena, as was the Snoke complaint.
The randomness of those deaths was the point. Thanos says as much earlier in the movie - that his solution is random, arbitrary, and fair. It is the outcome he wanted. And within Infinity War Thanos was the protagonist/main character. It is his story.
I still didn't find the end emotionally satisfying. Even without the context of the future movies etc., there is enough in this story (and I include the previous 18 movies) to know these deaths are not permanent.
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even within the movie though, do we know that this is the case without the outside assumption that the good guys have to win?
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Re: Avengers: Infinity War 2018
Once is usually enough but I wouldn't mind seeing this again.
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What a stupid spoiler.
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Is it the number of avengers in the movie?
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Captain marvel is probably the 22nd marvel movie
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The thought crossed my mindB wrote:Is it the number of avengers in the movie?
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My research tells me that IW has earned 2.2 billion whatever a Chinese dollar is.
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i was really close to seeing this again last night, but i was too sleepy
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You have watched this like five times!!!! WATCH A GROWNUP MOVIE FOR ONCE
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theplatypus wrote:You have watched this like five times!!!! WATCH A GROWNUP MOVIE FOR ONCE
Its so true though.
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My life is a grown up movie
(also just 3 times)
(also just 3 times)
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