Bi_3 wrote:McParadigm wrote:B_i inching dangerously close to the “This is a necessary evil” cliff.
The answer to "how do we address this concern" can't just be "not that". (It's 100% not chainlink cages.)
I appreciate that your intention is not to defend or to support this practice. And I think a conversation about immigration would be wonderful (and overdue) if only America wasn’t absolutely 100% toxic on the issue, with each side only able to see toxicity in the other.
However, I also think that the “what do we do about immigration tho” conversation is, in fact, not a necessary component of this more specific one. And I’ll hypothetical an example of why:
Imagine it was discovered that police officers were conducting extrajudicial killings of homeless people. Homelessness
is a serious and growing problem, and one which we must address. However, “how do we fix our homelessness problem” would
not be the
most effective response to the issue of police killings because homelessness
is not the CAUSE of the extrajudicial killings. An ethical and moral breakdown within the police force’s culture is. Removing homelessness (a worthy goal in the long run, but certainly a LONG RUN ambition and not something that can be done swiftly) would only be removing this particular opportunity to act, not the destructive culture, militant desire, or organizational failings.
Similarly, if a corporation is using financial misinformation and failing mental faculties among the elderly to coax them into terrible debt, the *immediate* response is not to redesign elder care across the country. That’s an admirable long term ambition, if you have it, but it’s a decades-long journey. The *immediate* response is to stop the
exact cruelty which you have discovered, by stopping the bad actors engaged in it. Full stop.
These separations and child detention centers weren’t birthed by necessity. The country wasn’t on the verge of collapse before they were enacted. They were intentionally designed, as are the accompanying efforts to reduce legal immigration, with malicious intent. No real world solution to immigration can appease that maliciousness, and there's no evidence that the people behind it would entertain one.
As for immigration as a broader topic, I stand by what I said at the top: this nation is simply not in a place where it can have a healthy conversation about immigration. I do not believe that such a conversation can ever take place while one third of the country sees immigrants as criminals whose only desire is to destroy America by making it less white, one third sees them as purest victims who must all be protected, and the last third can't even be bothered to read a newspaper because
staying abreast of politics is such a fucking burden to people born into comfort and exceptionalism jfc.
