The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

[digster]

If not cages, then what? What does the US government do with the ~250 kids a day that are caught entering the country illegally along that border everyday? What about next week? Next year? Who pays for their food? Teaches them English? Provides them healthcare?

We had answers to these questions a year ago. Your morality has to start with something. That's why I said the "eat them" comment. Cooking kids and eating them would be an efficient solution to the problem. We're morally opposed to that, so no one defends them.

Most people are morally opposed to putting kidnapped children in wire mesh cages, so whatever the solutions ARE, they aren't that.

No one here is suggesting that cages are a good idea. I was simply asking what is an achievable alternative for the government given the nature and scale of the problem. "Not that" doesn't help, it only makes people feel superior to whomever has the shitty job of figuring this out. And this is not kidnapping, don't devolve into hysterics, you're better than chud.

I don't have the US Government's Executive Branch at my disposal, so I don't know the available resources or the opinions of experts, but I might suggest ...

- hotels
- putting up actual walls in these warehouses and keeping families together
- deporting faster
- speeding up sanctuary and refugee requests
- speeding up immigration court proceedings

I don't either, hence the original questions. We've got a man who is arguably the worst elected leader we have ever seen on a national level and after every dumb as fuck thing he does the best we come up with is "this is an outrage!" and then mumble about "his base" and racism. Even if it's true, that isnt going to help anything. We the people need to check our emotional instincts, try to understand the problem, understand possible courses of action to address it, then act and support those who act in line with the solutions we feel are correct. A basic rational, Enlightenment thought process. Nearly all of human progress over the last 300 years has been achieved this way, let's try it here too.

And ultimately, we can't vote this crew out of power if our best slogan is "not this".

This is the same logic that some around Trump are using with a wink; if you can't fix illegal immigration in its entirety in one fell swoop (as if we all agreed on what a 'grand fix' even looked like), then you can't fix enforced separation of parents. Which is not true; you can easily fix the latter even if you're not able to fix the former.

[Norah]

[Rangi Guy]

She was eating at a Mexican restaurant?

[Norah]

that's what they're saying

[doug rr]

olé

[Simple Torture]

Could always get a taco bowl at Trump Tower.

[Biff Pocoroba]

The whole "Space Force" thing would have been ridiculous just a couple years ago but now it's barely worth a mention.

[Wendy Carlos's Twin]

Infest.

There's no small amount of truth to this, and not just Democrats, but left-leaning parties generally in the UK, Australia, etc.

I guess disingenuous, divisive nonsense is effective outside the USA too.

[B]

She was eating at a Mexican restaurant?

I told you that eating these kids was an option!

[McParadigm]

[McParadigm]

Stories from two fathers.

[Bi_3]

NPR said a tent city is also being considered as shelters fill up. You've heard of Paris, Texas? Get ready for Calais, Texas!

[B]

Guys, this made me cry. I had to sit down while this played.

[Bi_3]

Progressives are the best.

[McParadigm]

Annnnnnnd we’re already back to eye rolling about entire world views based on celebrity tweets.

[Wendy Carlos's Twin]

Annnnnnnd we’re already back to eye rolling about entire world views based on celebrity tweets.

It's the only defense they have.

"Look at what Peter Fonda said - what a dumb liberal!"

Like anybody gives a shit.

Meanwhile, the president is tweeting garbage every 15 minutes like a petulant teenage girl.

[jwfocker]

But this is the only answer to illegals coming into our country. Illegals people. They aren't human. Put them in cages.

Fucking absurd.

And a Celebrity tweet represents everyone. Fuck out of here with that trash.

[McParadigm]

The weirdest part of all this is that conservatives spent so much of the 90’s foaming over a conspiracy theory that FEMA camps were secret concentration camps that it even made its way into an X-Files movie.

[wease]

She was eating at a Mexican restaurant?

I told you that eating these kids was an option!

We heard you the first time, Jonathan Swift.

[Bi_3]

Annnnnnnd we’re already back to eye rolling about entire world views based on celebrity tweets.

That was an example of why we need to get the emotions in check before this gets worse. For example, an Antifa sect tweeted out a list of ICE agents names and locations this morning. We are teetering on the verge of something really bad here.