2006 vs 2012 performances?

[WtOB?]

Was watching some 06 videos and clicked an 07 one and boom, forget 2012, it was already different in 07. There's all the extra 'h' noises and vocal breaks and what have you. That looks pretty far into the set but still.

07 must have been when he started eating meat again.

[stupidmop]

Seriously though, he aged more during 06-09 than the entire six years before it. RIP hawt Ed

[Birds in Hell]

Seriously though, he aged more during 06-09 than the entire six years before it. RIP hawt Ed

Totally.

Kids, I guess?



Dude got weathered pretty fast.

[stupidmop]

Probably. I'm also convinced he was ill or something round when backspacer came out, dude looked/sounded rough as hell.

Aaaaaand I don't know why I'm talking about this.

[WtOB?]

Probably. I'm also convinced he was ill or something round when backspacer came out, dude looked/sounded rough as hell.

Aaaaaand I don't know why I'm talking about this.

He was actually visibly sick for the Conan appearance. No wonder he sounds sick on BS.


Should have stuck with that vegetarian diet.

[harmless]

(I will say this though. Matt Cameron is an amazing talent. He is always spot-on and I've never heard him make a mistake)

[harmless]

Was watching some 06 videos and clicked an 07 one and boom, forget 2012, it was already different in 07. There's all the extra 'h' noises and vocal breaks and what have you. That looks pretty far into the set but still.

I went to Reading 2006. It was a really great gig and yeah, Ed sounded good.

[WtOB?]

(I will say this though. Matt Cameron is an amazing talent. He is always spot-on and I've never heard him make a mistake)

harmless, you're one of my faves. but you're wrong about matt cameron.

[sico_pata]

Man...can anybody explain Eddie's voice and how it's changed over time?

Honestly I can imagine he would get worse over time, but then I started hearing 2006 shows on Pearl Jam Radio. Oh my God. I honestly think that this is the best I have ever heard Eddie Vedder sound ever. It helps that s/t is my third favorite album after Ten and Vs. and I love World Wide Suicide, Life Wasted, Come Back, and the other tracks they play on it. So most of these setlists I really like, especially because the Backspacer songs weren't out yet. But wow. I don't know WHAT It is and was wondering if somebody could tell me. Every time I've heard a show from 2006 Eddie has been hitting these high notes and his voice absolutely soars. There was one show from Hawaii I heard where he was just absolutely KILLING it. I mean he sounded as good or better than he ever has on any album. Usually the 90's shows, I guess because he was wilder then it's sort of scratchy and weird, but then the 2000's he started to just sing, and in 2006 I can't believe how much he wow's me. He actually has given me chills on these shows on songs like Given to Fly, Elderly Woman, Better Man, and Yellow Ledbetter. I mean his voice is PHENOMENAL.

Was there something going on there that made him better than any other year? Was he taking vocal lessons or something? Is that generally considered his best year live vocally? I'm just curious.

Anyways this made me excited because I was like Alright great, you know..they started in the 90's here's 2006 like seven years ago only...like 15 years after they started.... and he's still better than he ever was.

Then I heard a few 2012 concerts.

WTF HAPPENED?! He sounds absolutely terrible now...huh?! Like REALLY bad. He does this thing now where instead of sliding his voice up he breaks it in two. So for example "todaaaaay" in Jeremy becomes "todaaaa...haaaaay" he does this ALL the time now. He never used to do it before. In 2006 he was sliding his voice all over the place and it sounded amazing - he would slide up to these high notes and I'd be blown away. Now this sliding thing he does every song. Now he also just sounds like he has no voice, and can't sing any of the notes. He can't reach any of the high notes that he used to, his voice has gotten much more gravelly again, and I heard a performance of "Go" that was literally embarrassing. I also heard a performance of "Black" where his "doo's" at the end were terribly out of pitch and horrible and then he tried to continue to do the "doo's" after the song ended, and the sounds that came out of his mouth were making me cringe.

So my questions are basically...what are your opinions on the 2006 performances and the 2012 performances?

And then my question is...why in the world is 2006 so friggin good better than any other year including him in his prime, and also why is 2012 so horrible? Does he just have NO voice anymore? I mean my god, I can see your voice going over time but to have it happen so suddenly? I'm just blown away how he could improve so much and then suddenly drop off to nothing. I even heard some 2010 stuff and he sounded fine. I'm about to see them live for the first time if I can get tickets and it'd suck if I finally see them right when Eddie loses the ability to sing.
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Absolutely agree. Even I think that bootlegs from 2008 to 2010, and even 2011 and 2012 have a different mix with Ed voice putting in front of everything. So when you hearing any bootleg in the car, while driving in highway is something like you have Ed shouting over everything. There are some songs that you need to skip.

Ed voice usually bring me to another dimension with some melodic changes, thinking Untitled songs like, then he could break the voice and join it in the next second. Obviously there is something wrong from 2006 to nowadays.

The top performance of Ed voice live was in some point between 2000 and 2003, but the magic in his voice was in 1995 and that golden years

[harmless]

(I will say this though. Matt Cameron is an amazing talent. He is always spot-on and I've never heard him make a mistake)

harmless, you're one of my faves. but you're wrong about matt cameron.

~

Maybe I'm one of your faves because deep down, you know I'm right about Matt Cameron and you're just too scared to admit it.

[WtOB?]

(I will say this though. Matt Cameron is an amazing talent. He is always spot-on and I've never heard him make a mistake)

harmless, you're one of my faves. but you're wrong about matt cameron.

~

Maybe I'm one of your faves because deep down, you know I'm right about Matt Cameron and you're just too scared to admit it.

nah.

[WtOB?]

(I will say this though. Matt Cameron is an amazing talent. He is always spot-on and I've never heard him make a mistake)

harmless, you're one of my faves. but you're wrong about matt cameron.

~

Maybe I'm one of your faves because deep down, you know I'm right about Matt Cameron and you're just too scared to admit it.

nah.

nah m8.

[LetMeSleep]

He's a great drummer of the last 20 years and his work with SG is top notch. But he isn't the right man for PJ. He does a good job, better since SG reformed.

[Birds in Hell]

He's a great drummer of the last 20 years and his work with SG is top notch. But he isn't the right man for PJ. He does a good job, better since SG reformed.

I can behind all of this.

[dimejinky99]

(I will say this though. Matt Cameron is an amazing talent. He is always spot-on and I've never heard him make a mistake)

harmless, you're one of my faves. but you're wrong about matt cameron.

Big one I can think of offhand is Lukin in Dublin in either 00 or 06. He kept playing after the song finished. I was right up front. The band have a good laugh at him:)
But I've heard him screw up a few other times. Nothing major but it happens.

[WtOB?]

oh yeah, matt fucks up. he's a person.

[dimejinky99]

He fucks up more with soundgarden these days according to my pal.

[harmless]

I've never said I hate everything Matt Cameron does, but because I talk about Matt Cameron a lot, that's the message everyone gets about my feelings towards him. His work on Binaural and Riot Act (and tours around them) is great. But it becomes considerably less great from then on, for some reason. And all the way along, he just has habits and tendencies as a drummer that I really don't like. Some of the choices he makes are just... ugh. To some extent, that's a subjective thing and not everyone cares as much as me. Sometimes the way he'll drum a song can take it down a point or two. MYM is a 3 point song, not a 4 point song, just because Matt hardly shows up.

[irishferg]

(I will say this though. Matt Cameron is an amazing talent. He is always spot-on and I've never heard him make a mistake)

harmless, you're one of my faves. but you're wrong about matt cameron.

Big one I can think of offhand is Lukin in Dublin in either 00 or 06. He kept playing after the song finished. I was right up front. The band have a good laugh at him:)
But I've heard him screw up a few other times. Nothing major but it happens.

Yeah it was 2000 and it was pretty funny, remember him playing a couple of snare hits to near cover it up but they band wouldn't let him away with it. It was funny.

[Iholdthepain]

(I will say this though. Matt Cameron is an amazing talent. He is always spot-on and I've never heard him make a mistake)

harmless, you're one of my faves. but you're wrong about matt cameron.

Big one I can think of offhand is Lukin in Dublin in either 00 or 06. He kept playing after the song finished. I was right up front. The band have a good laugh at him:)
But I've heard him screw up a few other times. Nothing major but it happens.

Yeah it was 2000 and it was pretty funny, remember him playing a couple of snare hits to near cover it up but they band wouldn't let him away with it. It was funny.

MC screwed up pretty badly in New Orleans last year... He kinda sucks now with PJ, and needs to go back to SG.

...odd to bring this thread back out today.