R1: Stellar vs. Dig

[LoathedVermin72]

Incubus - "Stellar"


Mudvayne - "Dig"

Uncensored version:

[BurtReynolds]

ha i remember laughing at that Mudvayne video.

[LoathedVermin72]

I fucking love "Dig". It's a genuine metal song that is also genuinely catchy. Mudvayne are well above most of these bands; their technical skill is legit.

I like the video too. Cool angles and colors. I like the singer's makeup.

[BurtReynolds]

it gets my vote

[Jorge]

I paused the Mudvayne video and this is the frame I landed on

[Jammer XCI]

Mudvayne on LD.50 were fucking amazing.

Mudvayne all the way.

[Ello Sailor]

Dig wins easily. One of Ryan's best bass performances. Nasty as hell.

[Kevin Davis]

"Dig" is ridiculous -- a showcase for every stupid fright-night cliche in the nu-metal playbook. "First, we'll lead with some scary whispering -- so disturbing! Then we'll jump around in our Halloween costumes and make some evil, sadistic-looking faces, and then -- get ready for it -- we'll fucking SCRRRREEEEAAAUUUGGGHHHHMMM!! And check out this detail -- drops of red liquid flying through the air! Like splattered blood! Nothing says HORROR!! like splattered blood! RRAUUGGGHHH!!" This strikes me as sucker bait of the worst kind -- I have no idea what you people see in it. The expert musicianship described upthread must be found elsewhere because musically this song is completely unremarkable; an occasional bass chord rattling in isolation is hardly my idea of a memorable bassline.

The Incubus song is basically an N*SYNC ballad with some rock guitars but good grief -- vote for that.

[EJ]

Incubus also has a song called Dig. And, it’s a million times better than this Mudvayne pile of tripe.

Also, Stellar easily wins here.

[Ello Sailor]

I'm beginning to realize that KD takes himself entirely too seriously and routinely settles for lazy, low hanging hot takes. He also knows fuck all about heavy music. It's meant to be ridiculous, dummy.

Unsubscribed.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Can we please start eliminating those Incubus turds?

[Kevin Davis]

I'm beginning to realize that KD takes himself entirely too seriously and routinely settles for lazy, low hanging hot takes. He also knows fuck all about heavy music. It's meant to be ridiculous, dummy.

Unsubscribed.

Oh, please -- don't pretend like this stuff was some big self-referential farce that everyone was in on except me. People who were into this stuff were serious as a heart attack about it.

You are certainly correct that I have a bias against metal that is characterized by overwrought, throaty growling and theatrical displays of monster-movie nonsense. I have explained my musical objections to these things very fair-mindedly in a variety of other threads in this tournament. If these are "hot takes," so be it. If the shoe fits.

[LoathedVermin72]

I’m not above appreciating the horror clown aesthetic if it’s done in an entertaining way and backed by good music. Mudvayne, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, etc. I dig it.

I want to know KD’s thoughts on Black Metal and corpsepaint.

[Kevin Davis]

I'm sorry if I am coming across as a jerk here. I am passionate about music, and I do take it seriously -- yes, too much so at times. While I don't think that having no taste for nu-metal signifies humorlessness, I don't want to be a stick in the mud about it, so please forgive my lack of discretion.

[Kevin Davis]

I’m not above appreciating the horror clown aesthetic if it’s done in an entertaining way and backed by good music. Mudvayne, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, etc. I dig it.

I want to know KD’s thoughts on Black Metal and corpsepaint.

I have no experience with either but already hate both

[LoathedVermin72]

lol

[Ello Sailor]

Don't listen to him, Ryan. Your fills are brilliant, and those pants!

[bune]

Incubus also has a song called Dig. And, it’s a million times better than this Mudvayne pile of tripe.

Also, Stellar easily wins here.

Yeah, until I saw the videos I was wondering why you would have Incubus against Incubus.

[Ello Sailor]

I'm sorry if I am coming across as a jerk here. I am passionate about music, and I do take it seriously -- yes, too much so at times. While I don't think that having no taste for nu-metal signifies humorlessness, I don't want to be a stick in the mud about it, so please forgive my lack of discretion.

Your commentary on their aesthetic is whatever, but I think you've wrongfully dismissed just how technical the rhythm section is in the context of rock/metal. Or perhaps you're not willing to admit it because you're a hard line indie rock/jazz/Eddie Vedder guy. Hmm.

[Ello Sailor]

Why do I even care about this? I've caught the LV curse!!!!