The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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That too. Or someone leaked the names of the entire jury and they all have secret Swiss accounts now.
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But do either of these get us closer to details of collusion?tragabigzanda wrote:bune wrote: It's hard to describe how this makes me feel.
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rough day in the WH
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As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.
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Pure speculation, but perhaps because Cohen's is a State case, and Mueller's investigation is Federal, this means that any cooperation Cohen might offer Mueller will be taken into account at sentencing, but is not a clearly defined part of the deal as of yetMcParadigm wrote:As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.
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I have watched a ton of Law & Order
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Aww, that's no fun.McParadigm wrote:As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.
tragabigzanda wrote:I have watched a ton of Law & Order

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What I wouldn't give for a Holiday Inn Express and a L&O marathon on TBS for the next two days.bune wrote: Aww, that's no fun.tragabigzanda wrote:I have watched a ton of Law & Order
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I know this is completely irrational, but there's something about Cohen's hangdog expression coupled with his adult babyfat that makes me feel sort of bad for him.
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Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today
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4pm you idiottragabigzanda wrote:Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today
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lol sorry 2pm MTdoug rr wrote:4pm you idiottragabigzanda wrote:Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today
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Sounds like he’s pleading to campaign finance violations, presumably related to affair partner payments. It’ll be hard to sell the ”nothing to do with Trump” bunt that Republicans offered when the Manafort indictments happened.
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Manafort news Breaking on WGN radio: Jury has come to agreement on eight counts, can't agree on ten others
Edit: Verdict is guilty on 8, by the way
Edit: Verdict is guilty on 8, by the way
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I've previously read that in this sort of split scenario, the judge will take into account the defendant's behavior on and around ALL counts when it comes to sentencing.
Add to that the second case next month (with 1000 pieces of evidence scheduled to be presented), and he's still completely screwed.
Add to that the second case next month (with 1000 pieces of evidence scheduled to be presented), and he's still completely screwed.
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Those 8 counts carry 30 years each or something like that, seems like overkill to bother with anymore trials for him.
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Die in jail you piece of traitorous garbage.
I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd.
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boom..counts 7 and 8 for cohen