Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Other than Pearl Jam, who else is there?

Black coat white shoes black hat cadillac

American Hi-Fi- "Flavor of the Weak"
5
19%
Rancid- "Time Bomb"
22
81%
 
Total votes: 27

User avatar
Kevin Davis
tl;dr
Posts: 9312
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by Kevin Davis »

theplatypus wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:My favorite Rancid song might be "Antennas" from the 2000 album. I love the contrast between the punky verses and spacious, melodic choruses -- all in 1.5 minutes or less!
I'm surprised by this. I would imagine that 2000 album would be completely outside your sphere of interest. That's pretty much a straight-up hardcore album.
Is it? I'm not overly familiar with how the distinctions between subgenres break down in this arena, but in addition to the fast, brutal songs, there are a handful of more measured, melodic, pop-oriented tracks too ("Let Me Go," "Radio Havana," "It's Quite Alright," "Antennas"). It's a good blend, and the brevity of the songs works to its overall advantage.

That said, I don't love every song on the album, and my interest usually wanes about 2/3 of the way through it. I also think that genre-oriented distinctions fade away a bit when I'm listening to a band whose sonic elements and conventions I've already accepted. Despite completely missing "Life Won't Wait" for some reason, I knew "Wolves" like the back of my hand by the time this album had come out, and those familiar elements can help sugar the pill. This wasn't "some random new album with a bunch of yelling and screaming and stuff I don't like"; it was the new Rancid album. I feel like over the years on RM I've read people (probably Stip) getting chided for praising certain styles of music when performed by Pearl Jam yet failing to connect with the rawer, more authentic bands in that genre, which always struck me as unfair; it seems perfectly natural to me that people would respond this way to music. There's probably some element of that in my fondness for this record.
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by tragabigzanda »

Rancid, duh.
User avatar
4/5
See you in another life, brother
Posts: 6985
Joined: Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by 4/5 »

Not surprisingly I like both of these.

I never knew it was "Weak" not "Week".
"I want to see the whole picture--as nearly as I can. I don't want to put on the blinders of 'good and bad,' and limit my vision."-- In Dubious Battle

User avatar
Jammer XCI
Future Drummer
Posts: 3251
Joined: Sun May 31, 2015 12:11 am
Location: The 216
Contact:

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by Jammer XCI »

Kevin Davis wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:My favorite Rancid song might be "Antennas" from the 2000 album. I love the contrast between the punky verses and spacious, melodic choruses -- all in 1.5 minutes or less!
I'm surprised by this. I would imagine that 2000 album would be completely outside your sphere of interest. That's pretty much a straight-up hardcore album.
Is it? I'm not overly familiar with how the distinctions between subgenres break down in this arena, but in addition to the fast, brutal songs, there are a handful of more measured, melodic, pop-oriented tracks too ("Let Me Go," "Radio Havana," "It's Quite Alright," "Antennas"). It's a good blend, and the brevity of the songs works to its overall advantage.

That said, I don't love every song on the album, and my interest usually wanes about 2/3 of the way through it. I also think that genre-oriented distinctions fade away a bit when I'm listening to a band whose sonic elements and conventions I've already accepted. Despite completely missing "Life Won't Wait" for some reason, I knew "Wolves" like the back of my hand by the time this album had come out, and those familiar elements can help sugar the pill. This wasn't "some random new album with a bunch of yelling and screaming and stuff I don't like"; it was the new Rancid album. I feel like over the years on RM I've read people (probably Stip) getting chided for praising certain styles of music when performed by Pearl Jam yet failing to connect with the rawer, more authentic bands in that genre, which always struck me as unfair; it seems perfectly natural to me that people would respond this way to music. There's probably some element of that in my fondness for this record.
My favorite Rancid albums are Life Won't Wait and the 2000 album. Those ones just sound rawer and hit harder IMO.

My favorite Rancid song might be Maxwell's Murder though, which is also a sub 2 minute hardcore style song.
User avatar
Kevin Davis
tl;dr
Posts: 9312
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by Kevin Davis »

Love "Maxwell Murder" -- again, super catchy, and that bass is undeniable.

Their bassist really puts a lot of otherwise musically average songs over the top, honestly. He's fantastic.
User avatar
run2death
Rank This Poster
Posts: 5223
Joined: Mon March 18, 2013 11:48 pm
Location: A Dark Place

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by run2death »

Matt is a great bassist. That's the "make or break" quality of ska for me. The bass has gotta be jumpin' without being too "rockabilly."
User avatar
Jammer XCI
Future Drummer
Posts: 3251
Joined: Sun May 31, 2015 12:11 am
Location: The 216
Contact:

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by Jammer XCI »

run2death wrote:Matt is a great bassist. That's the "make or break" quality of ska for me. The bass has gotta be jumpin' without being too "rockabilly."
Speaking of rockabilly and somewhat punk music, what's everyone think of Social Distortion? I really like their old stuff but everything after White Heat White Trash is pretty boring.
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by tragabigzanda »

i've never listened to them outside of a couple songs
Joesanity
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 722
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:25 pm
Location: Cleveland

Re: Flavor of the Weak vs. Time Bomb

Post by Joesanity »

Jammer XCI wrote:
run2death wrote:Matt is a great bassist. That's the "make or break" quality of ska for me. The bass has gotta be jumpin' without being too "rockabilly."
Speaking of rockabilly and somewhat punk music, what's everyone think of Social Distortion? I really like their old stuff but everything after White Heat White Trash is pretty boring.
Outside of the self-titled album, they are one band I just could never get into. I did like Mike Ness's solo work though.
Locked