Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Also bar mym again they don't seen to jive with the mind-control/illuminati/big brother paranoia vibe I'm getting from the cover. I hope there's more songs on there that do. I hope sirens is one of them, someone said they could hear what sounded like a siren at the start of that clip, and the Greek myth siren direction sounds like it'd be too close to tremor christ and force of nature.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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If the 'just longer, not deeper' theory is correct (and I'm not sure how we can tell based on the three we have, which are not exactly Mozart but neither are they shallow), I'm a bit worried about Sirens being exactly that: Force of Nature reworked. Basically, it's quite likely that every song on Lightning Bolt will be a reworked version of every song on Backspacer, giving us permission to throw our copies of Backspacer in the trash. That would be fine with me. A reworked Johnny Guitar might be an instant classic.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Apollo, if it's on the actual tracklist, might've gone with that overall theme, btw.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I like the idea of "Where's the Sponge?" being about the electric chair, and the fact that Ed has the worst politician ever in the chair and he's about to flick the switch.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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For the longer reworked SoS will ed actually transform into meatloaf?

Going from no Obama bashing to figuratively killing him would be something :lol: he didn't even do that to bush!
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Obama? I'm gonna be thinking of David Cameron when I listen to that song but have at it.

:ohyeah!:
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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verb_to_trust wrote:
stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
I don't remember myself saying mostly critical things about older Pearl Jam songs and somehow arriving at the conclusion they would be good.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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verb_to_trust wrote:
harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
I don't remember myself saying mostly critical things about older Pearl Jam songs and somehow arriving at the conclusion they would be good.
I remember sitting in front of most of them saying "Meh, I like that bit, I don't like that bit, that bit's OK, I love that bit. Yeah... it'll grow on me."
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
I don't remember myself saying mostly critical things about older Pearl Jam songs and somehow arriving at the conclusion they would be good.
I remember sitting in front of most of them saying "Meh, I like that bit, I don't like that bit, that bit's OK, I love that bit. Yeah... it'll grow on me."
a band of underwhelming choruses
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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verb_to_trust wrote:
stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
there's a lot more going on there that I like and am excited for that I also talked about.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
I don't remember myself saying mostly critical things about older Pearl Jam songs and somehow arriving at the conclusion they would be good.
I remember sitting in front of most of them saying "Meh, I like that bit, I don't like that bit, that bit's OK, I love that bit. Yeah... it'll grow on me."
a band of underwhelming choruses
Very much so. For all that I don't think he made the right choice in that particular song (Just Breathe), I'm not against Brendan's idea that the bridge might make a good chorus. I would've advised that about 90% of their catalogue, if I'd been in his position.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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verb_to_trust wrote:
harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
I don't remember myself saying mostly critical things about older Pearl Jam songs and somehow arriving at the conclusion they would be good.
I would have if I had Red Mosquito and only had two live tracks to dissect
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Essentially, it's very possible that the failings of this version of LB are all due to the fact that it's played live.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:Essentially, it's very possible that the failings of this version of LB are all due to the fact that it's played live.
that's what I suspect. I could be wrong.

If I got the record tomorrow I think the first thing I'd do would be to play this song to find out if I was right.
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stip wrote:
harmless wrote:Essentially, it's very possible that the failings of this version of LB are all due to the fact that it's played live.
that's what I suspect. I could be wrong.

If I got the record tomorrow I think the first thing I'd do would be to play this song to find out if I was right.
Totally. That's my plan. I'm going to skip to the stuff I'm most worried about (FD and LB), get used to that, then get to the stuff I think I'm going to like. But all of this after I've got other people's opinions. I want to read a few of those before I dive in myself.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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"Where's the sponge"

PJ thinks: This is an Aya Davanita-esque interlude

Fans think: This is Hey Fakkah all over again


It really will be a wasted track
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OmegaprimeVKM wrote:PJ thinks: This is an Aya Davanita-esque interlude

Fans think: This is Hey Fakkah all over again
Whether you think these options are mutually exclusive will depend entirely on your taste.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
harmless wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.

I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.

Chorus is ehh,

Chorus is still kinda eh.

Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.


This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
I don't remember myself saying mostly critical things about older Pearl Jam songs and somehow arriving at the conclusion they would be good.
I remember sitting in front of most of them saying "Meh, I like that bit, I don't like that bit, that bit's OK, I love that bit. Yeah... it'll grow on me."
a band of underwhelming choruses
Very much so. For all that I don't think he made the right choice in that particular song (Just Breathe), I'm not against Brendan's idea that the bridge might make a good chorus. I would've advised that about 90% of their catalogue, if I'd been in his position.
Yup. Thats the best part of the song too.
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