Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

General Pearl Jam discussion.
Post Reply

Rate the new songs

Pearl Jam is no longer allowed to track their albums:
66
56%
Pearl Jam is no longer allowed to track their albums:
15
13%
Pearl Jam is no longer allowed to track their albums:
11
9%
Pearl Jam is no longer allowed to track their albums:
15
13%
Pearl Jam is no longer allowed to track their albums:
10
9%
 
Total votes: 117

User avatar
LikeLukin
Broken Tamborine
Posts: 384
Joined: Tue June 25, 2013 5:59 pm
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Contact:

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by LikeLukin »

durdencommatyler wrote:I've got Just Breathe and Amongst The Waves ranked higher on my big board than In Hiding.
:shake: You should see a doctor.
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by harmless »

I'M IN HIDEEEEEEEEEEEEAYYYYYYYYYAAAAAH
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
Thejambi
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4301
Joined: Fri April 12, 2013 8:12 pm
Location: Potato

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by Thejambi »

LikeLukin wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've got Just Breathe and Amongst The Waves ranked higher on my big board than In Hiding.
:shake: You should see a doctor.
As a refresher I listened to it again last night. Apart from the overall guitar work and te prechorus, in hiding is meh. I would take ATW and JB over it.
There's the dog. You can't fake that stuff. Confess with your mouth.
User avatar
LikeLukin
Broken Tamborine
Posts: 384
Joined: Tue June 25, 2013 5:59 pm
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Contact:

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by LikeLukin »

Thejambi wrote:
LikeLukin wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've got Just Breathe and Amongst The Waves ranked higher on my big board than In Hiding.
:shake: You should see a doctor.
As a refresher I listened to it again last night. Apart from the overall guitar work and te prechorus, in hiding is meh. I would take ATW and JB over it.
Same advice for you. I don't think I am as flabbergasted at your opinion of In Hiding (I can somewhat understand why you would think "meh") as I am at your liking for JB. At least In Hiding has great guitar work and a great pre-chorus as you said. WTF does JB have?
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by harmless »

JB is a really nice song. I don't know how you can compare it to In Hiding except to say you like one and hate the other. It's pretty meaningless to say it completely sucks and there's nothing going for it; that's simply not true, even if you personally hate it.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
Thejambi
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4301
Joined: Fri April 12, 2013 8:12 pm
Location: Potato

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by Thejambi »

LikeLukin wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
LikeLukin wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've got Just Breathe and Amongst The Waves ranked higher on my big board than In Hiding.
:shake: You should see a doctor.
As a refresher I listened to it again last night. Apart from the overall guitar work and te prechorus, in hiding is meh. I would take ATW and JB over it.
Same advice for you. I don't think I am as flabbergasted at your opinion of In Hiding (I can somewhat understand why you would think "meh") as I am at your liking for JB. At least In Hiding has great guitar work and a great pre-chorus as you said. WTF does JB have?
I love the sentiment of the song. I really enjoy the lyrics ( they do cross into the cheese at times though). I do like Eds guitar work and Jeffs bass playing is quite enjoyable. I find the production a little over the top but it is a beautiful song. They are both very different songs with very different sounds and I'm not prepared or care to really try to make an apples to apples comparison.
There's the dog. You can't fake that stuff. Confess with your mouth.
digster
Rank This Poster
Posts: 3972
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 1:10 am

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by digster »

In Hiding is one of the better songs on Yield, so I think it'd be flying pretty high over any song on Backspacer.
User avatar
LikeLukin
Broken Tamborine
Posts: 384
Joined: Tue June 25, 2013 5:59 pm
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Contact:

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by LikeLukin »

harmless wrote:JB is a really nice song. I don't know how you can compare it to In Hiding except to say you like one and hate the other. It's pretty meaningless to say it completely sucks and there's nothing going for it; that's simply not true, even if you personally hate it.
Different strokes I guess.
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by harmless »

It's not really any more cheesy than 'Alive', it's just a different type of cheese.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
EJ
Fake NYC Setlist Relayer
Posts: 7053
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:15 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by EJ »

Much of JB is decent, but that chorus is adult contemporary shlock. Was that BoB's fault?
Last edited by EJ on Tue August 13, 2013 4:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
LikeLukin
Broken Tamborine
Posts: 384
Joined: Tue June 25, 2013 5:59 pm
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Contact:

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by LikeLukin »

Thejambi wrote:
LikeLukin wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
LikeLukin wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I've got Just Breathe and Amongst The Waves ranked higher on my big board than In Hiding.
:shake: You should see a doctor.
As a refresher I listened to it again last night. Apart from the overall guitar work and te prechorus, in hiding is meh. I would take ATW and JB over it.
Same advice for you. I don't think I am as flabbergasted at your opinion of In Hiding (I can somewhat understand why you would think "meh") as I am at your liking for JB. At least In Hiding has great guitar work and a great pre-chorus as you said. WTF does JB have?
I love the sentiment of the song. I really enjoy the lyrics ( they do cross into the cheese at times though). I do like Eds guitar work and Jeffs bass playing is quite enjoyable. I find the production a little over the top but it is a beautiful song. They are both very different songs with very different sounds and I'm not prepared or care to really try to make an apples to apples comparison.
Fair enough regarding the sentiment.
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by harmless »

EJ wrote:Much of JB is decent, but that chorus is adult contemporary shlock. Was that BoB's fault?
It's his fault that that bridge became a chorus, yep.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that MYM received some fixin' as well. I can't think of any other reason they'd have chosen not to repeat the intro somewhere in the middle, or to repeat that 'chorus' that I think sounds suspiciously like a bridge. I can hear BO'B in my mind saying 'Keep it more streamlined, cut the fat' and other meaningless sound technician tropes.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
digster
Rank This Poster
Posts: 3972
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 1:10 am

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by digster »

I don't think the problem with Just Breathe is that the bridge is a chorus, or whatever it is. It doesn't help, but I think there's other issues with the song independent of that.
User avatar
stip
The worst
Posts: 42946
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by stip »

which part of MYM do you call the chorus?
User avatar
stip
The worst
Posts: 42946
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by stip »

digster wrote:I don't think the problem with Just Breathe is that the bridge is a chorus, or whatever it is. It doesn't help, but I think there's other issues with the song independent of that.
you just don't like nice things!
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by harmless »

digster wrote:I don't think the problem with Just Breathe is that the bridge is a chorus, or whatever it is. It doesn't help, but I think there's other issues with the song independent of that.
Apart from that, and the aw-huh?
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
digster
Rank This Poster
Posts: 3972
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 1:10 am

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by digster »

Lyrics, melody, the overabundance of syrup, etc. I don't know if it's easy to pick out exactly what's wrong with it and define it. I just don't think the elements that are there just don't really add up to something particularly compelling.
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by harmless »

stip wrote:which part of MYM do you call the chorus?
'Self-realised and metaphysically redeemed...' is the chorus as it appears twice (I think).
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
EJ
Fake NYC Setlist Relayer
Posts: 7053
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:15 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by EJ »

10 yrs ago they would've foregone the whole syrupy chorus section.
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes

Post by harmless »

digster wrote:Lyrics, melody, the overabundance of syrup, etc. I don't know if it's easy to pick out exactly what's wrong with it and define it. I just don't think the elements that are there just don't really add up to something particularly compelling.
I don't think it's worse than Parachutes in terms of Syrup. Hell, I don't even think it's worse than Thin Air in terms of syrup. This band aren't strangers to cheesy sentimental songs.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
Post Reply