The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

[Norah]

This is the perfect thread for record store discussion.

[washing machine]

Other good categories could be 'Price Range' and 'Best Find.'

Is there a discogs-esque sort of website for this kind of stuff? I could spend hours at a place like that.

[Simple Torture]

Other good categories could be 'Price Range' and 'Best Find.'

Is there a discogs-esque sort of website for this kind of stuff? I could spend hours at a place like that.

I mean, you'll find most places on Yelp. But it won't have the same character we can add to it.

[washing machine]

Well sure. Maybe you and I can enlist chud as a technical admin and start a little record shop url.

[epilogue]

Tonight, thanks to the awesome generosity of Andy Slash, I will be spinning the PJ20 soundtrack. For the first time. On any format.

Andy is the shit.

[super nintendo chalmers]

Tonight, thanks to the awesome generosity of Andy Slash, I will be spinning the PJ20 soundtrack. For the first time. On any format.

Andy is the shit.

Salut Andy!

The split 7 with Oxes and Will Oldham arrived today! It smokes.

[Simple Torture]

The split 7 with Oxes and Will Oldham arrived today! It smokes.

Mine did too! Awesone stuff.

[Simple Torture]

The split 7 with Oxes and Will Oldham arrived today! It smokes.

Is it weird to you that one side plays at 45 and the other at 33 1/3?

[kreng]

The split 7 with Oxes and Will Oldham arrived today! It smokes.

Is it weird to you that one side plays at 45 and the other at 33 1/3?

I have a bunch of 7" like that, it's annoying mostly because I have a manual belt.

[southp]

Well sure. Maybe you and I can enlist cuhd as a technical admin and start a little record shop url.

Not to rain on these great ideas, but have you guys ever checked out this site...
http://www.recordstorereview.com/index.php

[washing machine]

Well sure. Maybe you and I can enlist cuhd as a technical admin and start a little record shop url.

Not to rain on these great ideas, but have you guys ever checked out this site...
http://www.recordstorereview.com/index.php

That's exactly the sort of website that I was inquiring about!

[diesel]

i know there's different reasons to purchase vinyl: the bigger art, the joy / experience of 'digging' for treasurer at used shops, and the (subjective) warmer feel of analogue.

those are probably the reasons why i buy vinyl, but im getting very excited about the new neil young PONO format. i'm not an electronic format geek, more of a novice, so i can't begin to tell you the details behind 192khz/24bit, but i am very excited about a portable media player that i can plug into my car cd player and blast some really great sounding music. i guess i may have to invest in another hard drive to store the larger files (I assume these files will be huge compared to mp3s).

this topic may need its own thread, but i just wanted to throw it out there.

[Strat]

i know there's different reasons to purchase vinyl: the bigger art, the joy / experience of 'digging' for treasurer at used shops, and the (subjective) warmer feel of analogue.

those are probably the reasons why i buy vinyl, but im getting very excited about the new neil young PONO format. i'm not an electronic format geek, more of a novice, so i can't begin to tell you the details behind 192khz/24bit, but i am very excited about a portable media player that i can plug into my car cd player and blast some really great sounding music. i guess i may have to invest in another hard drive to store the larger files (I assume these files will be huge compared to mp3s).

this topic may need its own thread, but i just wanted to throw it out there.

It will be nice but at this point my mobile devices are used during various activities that do not require the best sound quality. Running, working out, skiing, driving, at work etc....I dont need those times of listneing to be done with highest of pure quality available.

When im at home and can listen to music and focus on such things - might as well just go with my growing Vinyl collection. Its great that Neil is doing this and providing such a thing for the future of music.

[southp]

i know there's different reasons to purchase vinyl: the bigger art, the joy / experience of 'digging' for treasurer at used shops, and the (subjective) warmer feel of analogue.

those are probably the reasons why i buy vinyl, but im getting very excited about the new neil young PONO format. i'm not an electronic format geek, more of a novice, so i can't begin to tell you the details behind 192khz/24bit, but i am very excited about a portable media player that i can plug into my car cd player and blast some really great sounding music. i guess i may have to invest in another hard drive to store the larger files (I assume these files will be huge compared to mp3s).

this topic may need its own thread, but i just wanted to throw it out there.

It's a valid conversation for this thread, especially when making the comparison to vinyl. I was recently talking about the MCIS reissue and I ended up comparing the record to the HD FLACs. Both sources are running through my McIntosh set up (C28 Preamp MC2505 amp)... the soundcard is a 24-bit M-Audio 192 and the TT is a Rega P3 with Elys cart.

The HD Flacs sounded better.

I'm convinced that a TT with higher quality cart can surpass a CD based on frequency range alone (CDs 20 Hz to 20 kHz compared to 20 Hz - 22++ kHz). Both actually cover the entire human audible range, but records and cassettes don't havea cut-off above 20 kHz. As for HD audio, I think it's more about the amount of "bytes" that are sampled within the frequency range. And that sampling rate just flat out beats vinyl.

Do we get into a discussion about analog wavelengths recorded to tape compared to bytes of data and how the human ear interprets this information???

[Norah]

This thread is turning me on.

[southp]

This thread is turning me on.

Only now? This thread has been turning me on for years.

[diesel]

i know there's different reasons to purchase vinyl: the bigger art, the joy / experience of 'digging' for treasurer at used shops, and the (subjective) warmer feel of analogue.

those are probably the reasons why i buy vinyl, but im getting very excited about the new neil young PONO format. i'm not an electronic format geek, more of a novice, so i can't begin to tell you the details behind 192khz/24bit, but i am very excited about a portable media player that i can plug into my car cd player and blast some really great sounding music. i guess i may have to invest in another hard drive to store the larger files (I assume these files will be huge compared to mp3s).

this topic may need its own thread, but i just wanted to throw it out there.

It's a valid conversation for this thread, especially when making the comparison to vinyl. I was recently talking about the MCIS reissue and I ended up comparing the record to the HD FLACs. Both sources are running through my McIntosh set up (C28 Preamp MC2505 amp)... the soundcard is a 24-bit M-Audio 192 and the TT is a Rega P3 with Elys cart.

The HD Flacs sounded better.

I'm convinced that a TT with higher quality cart can surpass a CD based on frequency range alone (CDs 20 Hz to 20 kHz compared to 20 Hz - 22++ kHz). Both actually cover the entire human audible range, but records and cassettes don't havea cut-off above 20 kHz. As for HD audio, I think it's more about the amount of "bytes" that are sampled within the frequency range. And that sampling rate just flat out beats vinyl.

Do we get into a discussion about analog wavelengths recorded to tape compared to bytes of data and how the human ear interprets this information???

cds sound better on my system. i think i need a better cart/stylus. my buddy has a great setup though and vinyl there is as good if not better than cd. what im looking forward to the most is really impressive surround sound. i love the dark side and wish you where here surround cd's and the flaming lips DVD-A releases.

i need someone to explain the 16 bit v 24 bit to me. i understand (enough) of the sampling rate argument that the higher the rate, the closer to the true soundwave (right?). The frequency range thing i get too, and speaking for myself, my range has probably diminished due to way too many concerts, not that i regret that in any way.

[Norah]

i know there's different reasons to purchase vinyl: the bigger art, the joy / experience of 'digging' for treasurer at used shops, and the (subjective) warmer feel of analogue.

those are probably the reasons why i buy vinyl, but im getting very excited about the new neil young PONO format. i'm not an electronic format geek, more of a novice, so i can't begin to tell you the details behind 192khz/24bit, but i am very excited about a portable media player that i can plug into my car cd player and blast some really great sounding music. i guess i may have to invest in another hard drive to store the larger files (I assume these files will be huge compared to mp3s).

this topic may need its own thread, but i just wanted to throw it out there.

It's a valid conversation for this thread, especially when making the comparison to vinyl. I was recently talking about the MCIS reissue and I ended up comparing the record to the HD FLACs. Both sources are running through my McIntosh set up (C28 Preamp MC2505 amp)... the soundcard is a 24-bit M-Audio 192 and the TT is a Rega P3 with Elys cart.

The HD Flacs sounded better.

I'm convinced that a TT with higher quality cart can surpass a CD based on frequency range alone (CDs 20 Hz to 20 kHz compared to 20 Hz - 22++ kHz). Both actually cover the entire human audible range, but records and cassettes don't havea cut-off above 20 kHz. As for HD audio, I think it's more about the amount of "bytes" that are sampled within the frequency range. And that sampling rate just flat out beats vinyl.

Do we get into a discussion about analog wavelengths recorded to tape compared to bytes of data and how the human ear interprets this information???

cds sound better on my system. i think i need a better cart/stylus. my buddy has a great setup though and vinyl there is as good if not better than cd. what im looking forward to the most is really impressive surround sound. i love the dark side and wish you where here surround cd's and the flaming lips DVD-A releases.

i need someone to explain the 16 bit v 24 bit to me. i understand (enough) of the sampling rate argument that the higher the rate, the closer to the true soundwave (right?). The frequency range thing i get too, and speaking for myself, my range has probably diminished due to way too many concerts, not that i regret that in any way.

How many bits you have is just the resolution of the sample rate. 16 bit means the computer uses 16 bits of binary data to create one sample of the wave. So increasing that is just increasing the resolution, similar to a picture or the bitrate of an mp3. The more binary data you use to create the same amount of sound the more accurate it's going to be represented.

[southp]

Have been on a Pixies/Frank Black kick and just got these two records at a great price considering what I've seen them go for.

[Simple Torture]

If you were waiting for the price of Neil Young + CH's "Americana" to come down (like me), it's currently under $30 on Amazon. Free shipping if you have Prime! (or want to do their Super-Saver stuff)