TV: Breaking Bad

[Mecca]

Also pretty impressed they jumped into the final confrontation so quickly-- and yes, when the garage door came down-- that was some serious fucking tension. Absolutely gave me chills.

I think it speaks to where Walt is mentally these days that, upon realizing that he is being directly investigated by his DEA brother-in-law, he just marches on over there with the GPS tracker in his pocket. No pacing or scheming or hand-wringing or lying. He all but admitted his identity and yet admitted nothing; he made ominous threats, yet overtly threatened nothing. He's pretty much ice cold.

What's interesting is, looking back on the relatively sunnier days for the White family, I can see shades of this maniac, even in the semi-harmless scenes. Remember when he flexed on those bullies in the mall for ridiculing his son? Warranted, maybe, but no less an indicator of what he was holding back.

For sure which makes me wonder if Walt was inherently good or bad. Im not sure I get the "oh, its just a man down on his luck that chose the wrong path to deal with it all". I think he is just an evil bastard at his core and if it weren't the cancer etc.. it would have been any number of things.

in a way, the show is saying that we all could Break Bad

[Jefrey with One F]

[@SkitchP]

He's not doing any investigating. He is obtaining no new evidence. He's simply staring at the same shit for half a week. In the process, instead of questioning walt formally, he's leaving a murderer on the street. Also, once he suspects walt, he should immediately remove himself from the case. Not a writing issue, it fits into Hanks character. Staring at the same evidence for 3 days however just struck me as a bit silly.

[Strat]

He's not doing any investigating. He is obtaining no new evidence. He's simply staring at the same shit for half a week. In the process, instead of questioning walt formally, he's leaving a murderer on the street. Also, once he suspects walt, he should immediately remove himself from the case. Not a writing issue, it fits into Hanks character. Staring at the same evidence for 3 days however just struck me as a bit silly.

I gotta imagine part of him didn't want to believe it but at the same time he has been obsessed with this case from day 1. So obsessed its damn near cost him his job (and got promoted !)

Also, I dont think his character would be like "So, you've killed tons of people and are the worlds most dangerous drug dealer, eh?". It all started from a little "WW". Thats not much and pouring over evidence stringing it all together obviously gave him the answer he was hoping he wouldnt find. Maybe.

[@SkitchP]

He's not doing any investigating. He is obtaining no new evidence. He's simply staring at the same shit for half a week. In the process, instead of questioning walt formally, he's leaving a murderer on the street. Also, once he suspects walt, he should immediately remove himself from the case. Not a writing issue, it fits into Hanks character. Staring at the same evidence for 3 days however just struck me as a bit silly.

I gotta imagine part of him didn't want to believe it but at the same time he has been obsessed with this case from day 1. So obsessed its damn near cost him his job (and got promoted !)

Also, I dont think his character would be like "So, you've killed tons of people and are the worlds most dangerous drug dealer, eh?". It all started from a little "WW". Thats not much and pouring over evidence stringing it all together obviously gave him the answer he was hoping he wouldnt find. Maybe.

I think he probably figured it out in an hour and a half.

[Strat]

He's not doing any investigating. He is obtaining no new evidence. He's simply staring at the same shit for half a week. In the process, instead of questioning walt formally, he's leaving a murderer on the street. Also, once he suspects walt, he should immediately remove himself from the case. Not a writing issue, it fits into Hanks character. Staring at the same evidence for 3 days however just struck me as a bit silly.

I gotta imagine part of him didn't want to believe it but at the same time he has been obsessed with this case from day 1. So obsessed its damn near cost him his job (and got promoted !)

Also, I dont think his character would be like "So, you've killed tons of people and are the worlds most dangerous drug dealer, eh?". It all started from a little "WW". Thats not much and pouring over evidence stringing it all together obviously gave him the answer he was hoping he wouldnt find. Maybe.

I think he probably figured it out in an hour and a half.

Do we have a timeline from when his partners dropped off all the evidence to when Walt showed up? Maybe it was 1.5 hours after....

[@SkitchP]

He's not doing any investigating. He is obtaining no new evidence. He's simply staring at the same shit for half a week. In the process, instead of questioning walt formally, he's leaving a murderer on the street. Also, once he suspects walt, he should immediately remove himself from the case. Not a writing issue, it fits into Hanks character. Staring at the same evidence for 3 days however just struck me as a bit silly.

I gotta imagine part of him didn't want to believe it but at the same time he has been obsessed with this case from day 1. So obsessed its damn near cost him his job (and got promoted !)

Also, I dont think his character would be like "So, you've killed tons of people and are the worlds most dangerous drug dealer, eh?". It all started from a little "WW". Thats not much and pouring over evidence stringing it all together obviously gave him the answer he was hoping he wouldnt find. Maybe.

I think he probably figured it out in an hour and a half.

I thought it was a couple days and they were just checking on him or bringing him more.

Do we have a timeline from when his partners dropped off all the evidence to when Walt showed up? Maybe it was 1.5 hours after....

[WtOB?]

yeah, that garage door closing shot was incredible. these guys know how to make a show.

[numbers]

I've been thinking about that scene at least once an hour since Sunday night.

[spike]

He's not doing any investigating. He is obtaining no new evidence. He's simply staring at the same shit for half a week. In the process, instead of questioning walt formally, he's leaving a murderer on the street. Also, once he suspects walt, he should immediately remove himself from the case. Not a writing issue, it fits into Hanks character. Staring at the same evidence for 3 days however just struck me as a bit silly.

i think hank just wanted to be completely sure about walt because of the stakes, ie, shattering the family they're both part of. really, it's higher stakes than if it was just another perp. also, the disbelief/refusing to believe it thought. also also, you're nitpicking too much.

[verb_to_trust]

To be honest I find it sort of unrealistic that Hank would not be more open to covering this up due to the family issues it would cause/Walt dying (which I don't believe). I mean........Hank is a cop, right? They aren't exactly known for ethics....

[Mecca]

To be honest I find it sort of unrealistic that Hank would not be more open to covering this up due to the family issues it would cause/Walt dying (which I don't believe). I mean........Hank is a cop, right? They aren't exactly known for ethics....

Walt was on the phone with Saul saying he'd take care of Jesse's money situation while hooked up to an IV. I think its safe to say his cancer is back in some way.

[Strat]

To be honest I find it sort of unrealistic that Hank would not be more open to covering this up due to the family issues it would cause/Walt dying (which I don't believe). I mean........Hank is a cop, right? They aren't exactly known for ethics....

Maybe he will be? He did say "bring Skylar and the kids over...."

Who knows what will happen but initial instinct tells me hank was way too emotionally involved in this case and walt is too fucking crazy for this not to go down as expected.

[Mecca]

[Strat]

Ok good, im not the only one that thought this.

[Jorge]

The similarities between Walt's demeanor towards Lydia in the car wash and Gus's demeanor back when they first met in Pollos Hermanos is interesting.

[Jefrey with One F]

The similarities between Walt's demeanor towards Lydia in the car wash and Gus's demeanor back when they first met in Pollos Hermanos is interesting.

Walt even folded a towel to kneel on when he was vomiting, something Gus did once before when he was upchucking the poison he’d fed to his competition.

He’s been taking on characteristics of people he’s killed:
When Walt killed Crazy 8, he started cutting off the crusts of his sandwiches – just as Crazy 8 had done.
Gus drives a Volvo. After Walt kills Gus, at the beginning of Season 5 (at the Denny’s), Walt is driving a Volvo (w/ NH plates).
When Mike and Walt meet at a bar in an earlier season, Walt orders his drink neat while Mike has his on the rocks. After Mike is killed, and Hank offers Walt a drink in his office – he asks for it on the rocks.
You can now add to that list the way Walt uses his car wash as a front, and continues to actively work there.

So when he's at the Denny's on his birthday and does the "52" thing with his bacon as Skyler used to do for him, maybe it's a clue that he has killed her?

[BootsToAsses]

I decided to finally start this show yesterday. I'd been trying to get through The Wire but after 2 seasons I still wasn't feeling it so I've sacked it off (I know some will think I'm insane for giving up on that one).

I've watched 5 episodes of Breaking Bad and this is exactly what I was looking for. Nothing seemed any good once I'd seen The Sopranos. Nothing compared for me, but BB is hitting all the right notes for me. They do such a good job from the beginning of making Walter an extremely sympathetic character who you really relate to. I'm completely invested already and want him to be ok.

I know it's all probably going to go wrong but so far I'm enjoying rooting for him. His comment in the classroom during the pilot was quite telling I feel. Something about chemistry being the study of change. I think that's going to be the show; how one man changes in very small increments perhaps?

Anyways, can't wait to keep watching.

[vegman]

Ok good, im not the only one that thought this.

[griffinxi]

He's not doing any investigating. He is obtaining no new evidence. He's simply staring at the same shit for half a week. In the process, instead of questioning walt formally, he's leaving a murderer on the street. Also, once he suspects walt, he should immediately remove himself from the case. Not a writing issue, it fits into Hanks character. Staring at the same evidence for 3 days however just struck me as a bit silly.

***POTENTIAL SPOILERS WITHIN***

I think discovering something like this about a family member would make for a jarring couple of days-- the complications/ramifications are significant. He's in an extremely difficult spot, and I think what he's doing in his garage is more about understanding the big picture before making his next move, whatever that may be. The White family is semi-functional in its current state; on the surface, everyone's getting along and things are quiet. Even if busting Walt is the "right" thing to do, it's not unreasonable to think that decision might take a few days/ a week to gestate.

And what happens when Hank learns how his hospital bills were getting paid?

And concerning the name of the show, is it unreasonable to think that Hank might just decide to sweep this under the rug and break a little bad himself? Not that I'd necessarily like to see that, but in a show like this I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Hank compromise himself-- and maybe by extension, Marie? That would put the whole family in the fryer, and would leave basically Jesse as the only person who is trying (however awkwardly) to get to a better place.