Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
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cold confession and let it ride are better than all of the below average pj songs being discussed right now.
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You're half right.warehouse wrote:cold confession and let it ride are better than all of the below average pj songs being discussed right now.
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Agreed.warehouse wrote:cold confession and let it ride are better than all of the below average pj songs being discussed right now.
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seriouslyBirds in Hell wrote:Just Breathe better than Thin Air?
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Thin Air>>>>>>Just Breathe>>>>>>>>>Parachutes
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no fucking no fucking no.OmegaprimeVKM wrote:Thin Air>>>>>>Just Breathe>>>>>>>>>Parachutes
Parachutes is awesome and leaves the other two in the dust. Then Thin Air.
And then Just Breathe.
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So was the point of leaking this two for the leaker to prove that the band took the wrong path at S/T and as a result is now making far from imaginative drudgery?
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I wouldn't call CC or LIR desperately imaginative. They're good but they're typical PJ (in a good way).OmegaprimeVKM wrote:So was the point of leaking this two for the leaker to prove that the band took the wrong path at S/T and as a result is now making far from imaginative drudgery?
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I can see 3 reasons for the leak, 2 of which would be from any PJ source.OmegaprimeVKM wrote:So was the point of leaking this two for the leaker to prove that the band took the wrong path at S/T and as a result is now making far from imaginative drudgery?
1. Lost Dogs II imminent release and wetting our appetites.
2. Riot Act or ST delux edition imminent. Unlikely for another 5-6 years at least I'd imagine.
3. It was not from a PJ source. This leak is a huge mistake and the band hate the thought of us having it. (Most likely scenario)
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Lir sounds especially familiar. I also don't think it is that good. It could have fit on S/t in a way cc would not have. I wonder if it was replaced by goneharmless wrote:I wouldn't call CC or LIR desperately imaginative. They're good but they're typical PJ (in a good way).OmegaprimeVKM wrote:So was the point of leaking this two for the leaker to prove that the band took the wrong path at S/T and as a result is now making far from imaginative drudgery?
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Possibly. I wondered whether CC had been replaced by Inside Job, considering its slightly similar melody and vocal style in the verses.stip wrote:Lir sounds especially familiar. I also don't think it is that good. It could have fit on S/t in a way cc would not have. I wonder if it was replaced by goneharmless wrote:I wouldn't call CC or LIR desperately imaginative. They're good but they're typical PJ (in a good way).OmegaprimeVKM wrote:So was the point of leaking this two for the leaker to prove that the band took the wrong path at S/T and as a result is now making far from imaginative drudgery?
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Somewhere in the discussion someone made a good point. These were both recorded in the first of two sessions, neither of them sound like they would fit on ST, so they probably were never on the tracklists. I'm sure there is at least one more complete song left. That is unless Gone was added without anything being dropped.
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i doubt either were. They don't sound, at least this versions, finished enough to have been that close to making the album.harmless wrote:Possibly. I wondered whether CC had been replaced by Inside Job, considering its slightly similar melody and vocal style in the verses.stip wrote:Lir sounds especially familiar. I also don't think it is that good. It could have fit on S/t in a way cc would not have. I wonder if it was replaced by goneharmless wrote:I wouldn't call CC or LIR desperately imaginative. They're good but they're typical PJ (in a good way).OmegaprimeVKM wrote:So was the point of leaking this two for the leaker to prove that the band took the wrong path at S/T and as a result is now making far from imaginative drudgery?
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LetMeSleep wrote:no fucking no fucking no.OmegaprimeVKM wrote:Thin Air>>>>>>Just Breathe>>>>>>>>>Parachutes
Parachutes is awesome and leaves the other two in the dust. Then Thin Air.
And then Just Breathe.
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I don't expect them to. They're not going to get mastered, or even finally mixed, until the band knows they'll go on the album. In most cases it's a waste of time to finish tracks that won't be appearing. They'll record them all to a close enough quality and then decide which ones to master.Mine wrote:i doubt either were. They don't sound, at least this versions, finished enough to have been that close to making the album.harmless wrote:Possibly. I wondered whether CC had been replaced by Inside Job, considering its slightly similar melody and vocal style in the verses.stip wrote:Lir sounds especially familiar. I also don't think it is that good. It could have fit on S/t in a way cc would not have. I wonder if it was replaced by goneharmless wrote:I wouldn't call CC or LIR desperately imaginative. They're good but they're typical PJ (in a good way).OmegaprimeVKM wrote:So was the point of leaking this two for the leaker to prove that the band took the wrong path at S/T and as a result is now making far from imaginative drudgery?
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One thing which is funny about the comments regarding these songs, as opposed to the comments regarding later stuff, is that if these songs seem incomplete they are judged to be "not finished", whereas when newer stuff sounds incomplete, it just sucks.
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Can you give an example of this, please?harmless wrote:One thing which is funny about the comments regarding these songs, as opposed to the comments regarding later stuff, is that if these songs seem incomplete they are judged to be "not finished", whereas when newer stuff sounds incomplete, it just sucks.
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Alot of people point this out about Backspacer.LetMeSleep wrote:Can you give an example of this, please?harmless wrote:One thing which is funny about the comments regarding these songs, as opposed to the comments regarding later stuff, is that if these songs seem incomplete they are judged to be "not finished", whereas when newer stuff sounds incomplete, it just sucks.
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Well the clear distinction is that Backspacer is a finished product and CC + LiR are not. Do we have any newer stuff in demo form to judge?
And I haven't read that. BS is produced to high heaven.
And I haven't read that. BS is produced to high heaven.
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I think it's more toward the songwriting choices and some of the lyrics.LetMeSleep wrote:Well the clear distinction is that Backspacer is a finished product and CC + LiR are not. Do we have any newer stuff in demo form to judge?
And I haven't read that. BS is produced to high heaven.
There's the dog. You can't fake that stuff. Confess with your mouth.