I'm familiar with anything that's been officially released, I just periodically see reference to "Vs. Demos" or "S/T Demos" (the guy in the Lightning Bolt thread who made his countdown-to-the-new-album calendar is what got me thinking of this) and find myself wondering what that refers to. From what I gather these people are usually just referring to lower-grade versions of the released takes?
Kevin Davis wrote:I'm familiar with anything that's been officially released, I just periodically see reference to "Vs. Demos" or "S/T Demos" (the guy in the Lightning Bolt thread who made his countdown-to-the-new-album calendar is what got me thinking of this) and find myself wondering what that refers to. From what I gather these people are usually just referring to lower-grade versions of the released takes?
More so the rough mixes or slightly different performances that preceded the album version.
There's the dog. You can't fake that stuff. Confess with your mouth.
Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"
While a Western guitar motif lost on the swings drum bass fusion, get your own thoughts into the subconscious often forgotten. "Pendulum" is a sweeping soul from the ballast.
i've been wondering after a few listenings to the vs rough mixes is it whipping the same thing that appeared on vitalogy?
to me it sounds pretty close to an album version from vitalogy, what gives?
they're should've include whipping/betterman(live) /hti to the vs reissue album
ps. i'd like to look to the better quality rough mixes other than that shitty mp3 from g.net
The recording notes say that it was re-recorded but it is possible they used that as a guide track. Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.
While a Western guitar motif lost on the swings drum bass fusion, get your own thoughts into the subconscious often forgotten. "Pendulum" is a sweeping soul from the ballast.
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.
Well, it's only that one song. Everything else was recorded in the studio.
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.
Well, it's only that one song. Everything else was recorded in the studio.
There's a couple of others.
While a Western guitar motif lost on the swings drum bass fusion, get your own thoughts into the subconscious often forgotten. "Pendulum" is a sweeping soul from the ballast.
Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"
i remember reading that, and seeing it again now it makes it seem like Ed is just a Dick, but i think i remember them saying(or Ed saying) it was to give them more of a live feel.
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.
Well, it's only that one song. Everything else was recorded in the studio.
There's a couple of others.
Which ones?
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Most of Riot Act:
Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"
i remember reading that, and seeing it again now it makes it seem like Ed is just a Dick, but i think i remember them saying(or Ed saying) it was to give them more of a live feel.
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Vitalogy is interesting in that some of the basic tracks are taken from live performances (Betterman) and warm-ups. I remember REM did this for New Adventures in HiFi.
Well, it's only that one song. Everything else was recorded in the studio.
There's a couple of others.
Which ones?
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Most of Riot Act:
Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"
i remember reading that, and seeing it again now it makes it seem like Ed is just a Dick, but i think i remember them saying(or Ed saying) it was to give them more of a live feel.
No wonder stone doesn't like Riot Act
plus the fact that he wrote some awesome music for a song that Ed refused to sing on and it became Bushleaguer
though i love Bushleaguer
Yeah i like bushleaguer too, but that music was way to awesome to be wasted on a doomed to be dated spoken word tirade. They should rework the verses and keep the chorus for obama-leaguer.I'd love to hear a version with singing on if there was one.
cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, he has MSG 98 at a shitty bitrate with no source info. I hadn't been here in a while but this is why. That shit pisses me off.
Yea im hoping that show gets the Vault treatment one day...The audio I have sucks too...I believe its from gremmie
stupidmop wrote:Yeah i like bushleaguer too, but that music was way to awesome to be wasted on a doomed to be dated spoken word tirade. They should rework the verses and keep the chorus for obama-leaguer.I'd love to hear a version with singing on if there was one.
i would definitely like to see it reworked for the next person they are that upset with
Stone Gossard wrote:"[A lot of] the [songs'] arrangements were only hours old a lot of the times. We'd teach each other a song in the studio, just figuring we'd demo it up to see if we wanted to do it. But then Ed came in the studio and threw a vocal on it and that was it. There were several songs that we all thought were only demos, but Ed would say, 'I just sang it, that's the take.'"
huh, see that's interesting. i've always considered a demo to be a very rough sketch of a song that's recorded independently by a member of the band, then brought to the band. once the band records it in some form, it ceases to be a demo and is then a rough mix. but i suppose it's still a demo if the band is working it out in studio and it just happens to be recorded? or, stone is just using the term 'demo' haphazardly, which is, really, what a lot of folks around here do and it get's chud's panties in a bunch.
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/hti to the vs reissue album
No wonder stone doesn't like Riot Act
