The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

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Regarding the quote from the good Senator in 1867 and the text of the Citizenship Clause:
Who in the U.S. is NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S.? Foreign ambassadors. Anybody else in this country is subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. and the state wherein they reside. I think that STRONGLY suggests the proper way to interpret the Amendment.
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Tangent but dIplomats here have CD on their car plates. (Corpus diplomatus or some shit)
They get away with speeding tickets parking fines and murder in some cases.
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dimejinky99 wrote:Tangent but dIplomats here have CD on their car plates. (Corpus diplomatus or some shit)
They get away with speeding tickets parking fines and murder in some cases.
It’s true! If you want proof, just watch Lethal Weapon 2.

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So are any idiot militia gonna turn up at the border? Isn’t this the kind of thing they’re paranoid about? Immigrants and government moving against them to take dur guuunns?
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The Border Patrol has already issued warnings to landowners in Texas and AZ about idiot militia-types roaming around.
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Well, more idiot militia-types than usual that is.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:

So are any idiot militia gonna turn up at the border? Isn’t this the kind of thing they’re paranoid about? Immigrants and government moving against them to take dur guuunns?
It’s stuff like this that really cuts through the bullshit and shows how racism and xenophobia are inherently embedded into right-wing social ideology.
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It was an honest question. Just been reading up on these militias. ‘White, right-leaning white folks - with guns - pose a far more immediate threat to American internal safety than the teeming masses South of the border; yet to listen to Fox News you'd think this is the barbarians at the gate territory (indeed one commentator theorised ISIS might be sneaking in from within the caravans), all the while the conversations about gun control remain unexplored.’
And Trump is stoking this fire as are his propaganda outlets.


99% invisible are running a series on some farmers down south who took umbrage to the government telling them their cattle can’t roam and they mobilised loads of militia from all over the country to come and face off against local law enforcement and it eventually went to court and they won. Against the state. But the mobilisation and so many armed gun nuts looking for a fight coming to their aid from all over the country was the really alarming bit.
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I had forgotten about the birth tourism phrasing.
Weird thing is, even liberal media has been bitching about "Birth Tourism."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bi ... mi-n836121

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fe ... ts-n315996

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 16f5143664

And that site of the stabbing of many babies in NYC was a "birth tourist" site: https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspected-bi ... bing-spree

So there's bound to be some kind of SCOTUS decision defining this, since nobody saw this coming in 1868.

(The 14th Amendment was written to give slaves and descendants of slaves American citizenship, negating the bad Dred Scott SCOTUS decision.)
This Supreme Court decision attempted to settle the legal status of slaves in free territories to avert a civil war, but it provoked one instead. Dred Scott, who was born a slave in Missouri, traveled with his master to the free territory of Illinois. As a result, Scott later sued his master for freedom, which the lower courts usually granted. However, when the case reached the U.S. Supreme Court, it ruled that Scott would remain a slave because as such he was not a citizen and could not legally sue in the federal courts. Moreover, in the words of Chief Justice Roger Taney, black people free or slave could never become U. S. citizens and they “had no rights which the white man was bound to respect.” The dissenting justices pointed out that in some states people of color were already considered citizens when the Constitution was ratified. In 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment overturned the Dred Scott decision by granting citizenship to all those born in the United States, regardless of color.
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Well, it's November. What are all you lucky US RMers going to spend your tax cut on?
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Citizen Dick wrote:Well, it's November. What are all you lucky US RMers going to spend your tax cut on?
I put mine into a savings account and it's helping pay for an anniversary vacation.
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I’m using mine to start a fund for all the militia patriots who respond to today’s presidential call to open fire on migrants at the border.
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Is this like the 600 dollar check I got from Clinton or what?
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We did have two maniacs stop a momentum that was incredible. Because for 7 days no one talked about the election. It stopped a tremendous momentum
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