Film: No Country for Old Men (Coen Brothers)

[E.H. Ruddock]

Original discussion here:

http://archive.theskyiscrape.com/viewto ... 60&start=0

Anyone revisit this lately? Discuss!

[LoathedVermin72]

Savage

[bune]

I need to. Haven't thought of it in awhile but I think this is a good example to show my son of "bad guys who completely overpower the good guys".

I've been using the imdb Parents Guide for movies and I check the one for this movie. I laughed:

Profanity

Mild 9 of 12 found this mild

3 -sses, 2 f-cks, and 1 each of sh-t, son of a b-tch, wh-res, d-ck, and 'riding b-tch', along with 1 use of "screw" (sex). Also 6 uses of "hell", 3 of "Goddamn", 2 of "damn", 1 of "My God", and 1 of "Oh Lord".

So you can't say those but you'll say the others. Alright then.

[doug rr]

love this movie

[LoathedVermin72]

This movie does not hold up well at all IMO. One of their worst.

[doug rr]

This movie does not hold up well at all IMO. One of their worst.

you should try watching it above a fireplace

[bune]

You continue to confound me, LV.

[LoathedVermin72]

Brolin going back out to the desert with the water at night is one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever seen in a movie and it irritates me so much that it’s hard for me to go past that part in the movie.

[bune]

I can see that. I mean, that many hours later? If he had gone back sooner then I'd get it but a man who lives in the desert (and had the training he had) probably should have known better about how long someone who was shot could survive, let alone need water for.

Thankfully I'm still OK with that.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[LoathedVermin72]

Brolin going back out to the desert with the water at night is one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever seen in a movie and it irritates me so much that it’s hard for me to go past that part in the movie.

FWIW, it's exactly what happens in the book. In fact, this movie adheres closer to the source material than any other adaptation I've ever seen by a wide margin. Virtually every singly scene, right down to the exact dialogue, is taken from the novel. The only difference between the two is Llewellyn's relationship with the "beer leads to more beer" girl, which is depicted somewhat differently in the novel.

Yeah, I figured as much. McCarthy is a dumbass. The Coens never should have tainted their cinematic talents with the dreck that is his writing.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[LoathedVermin72]

Apparently not

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[LoathedVermin72]

Yes, I think it’s extremely obvious that that is what it’s conveying. That’s part of why I hate it. It’s as subtle as a brick through a window. And it makes no fucking sense because there’s no way that guy would be that much of a moron. Anyone with a brain would know that dude would be long dead by then.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Well i guess i can understand why you might dislike it, on account of it lacks subtlety. But again, Llewelyn acknowledges it with "sumthin' dumber n' dirt, but i'm fixin' to do it anyway." It's a fine device to move the plot forward, because it also adds a ton of character development with just a few lines.

I love Llewellyn Moss, one of my favorite literary characters of all time. His simple life with his loving wife in their trailer, hunting antelope, nowhere to go and nowhere to be. He has everything right in the palm of his hands when he stumbles onto that shootout, and through his empathy -- not his greed, as 99% of all other writers would have done -- he sets himself up for failure, and he even had an inkling it would happen.

I know I won't change your mind, but the discussion has helped me better define why I like that part so much.

[LoathedVermin72]

Now I get why you guys like him: you’re as dumb as he is