2018 Rimmy Awards: top 5 albums

[Brett]

Other albums I've enjoyed this year, but not enough to make my top ten:

El Ten Eleven - Banker's Hill
The Dwarfs of East Agouza - Rats Don't Eat Synthesizers
Joyfultalk - Plurality Trip
Animal Collective - Tangerine Reef
Automatisme & Erinome - Post-Landscape 1

A few disappointments:

Automatisme - Transit; probably can jot this one down to an overabundance of material. I mean, I like it, but not as much as I expected to, and not as much as his album with Erinome or some of his older work. Not to mention, he just released another collaborative album, this time with Thisquietarmy, that I haven't had a chance to check out yet.

Jessica Moss - Entanglement; I like it more than Pools of Light from last year, but I guess this is a little to far into post-classical, or contemporary composition, or whatever you want to call it. Enjoyable enough, but doesn't really resonate.

Mogwai - Kin; I was really hyped for this one after the back to back excellence of Atomic and Every Country's Sun, especially with how good "Donuts" is. Unfortunately, the rest of the album I don't even remember, but maybe that's mostly due to me only listening to it about five times on Bandcamp.

Tim Hecker - Konoyo; I think I have to accept that like Jessica Moss's solo stuff, I appreciate Hecker more for his stature and influence than for the actual music itself.

[epilogue]

I already admitted my part in this discussion was limited and biased by meaningless personal experience. I also lauded Kanye's contribution to the culture. And now I'm going to say that some quick internet searching proves my experience with that record does not align at all with the cultural perception and LV might be right. Even Billboard has it as the #1 record of the decade. It's high (top 5) on every list I looked at. But please, LV, continue to attack me for shit I didn't say.

To be fair it was mostly trag

THANK YOU

[LoathedVermin72]

Joey and trag please know that I still love you both

[tragabigzanda]

[tragabigzanda]

[Jorge]

To be clear, I posted those accolades because Trag seemed to be making a weird argument about how MBDTF's impact was mostly a black thing. I think they're still a pretty good indication of an album's cultural impact (especially when paired with its commercial success), relative to the rapidly dwindling audience who cares about music in that way. The simple answer to Verb's question is that there's not going to be a direct equivalent to Appetite or Dark Side of the Moon in modern terms because music just doesn't work that way anymore, but MBDTF is about as close as we can get in the 21st century.

[tragabigzanda]

Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb

I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

[tragabigzanda]

[Brett]

1. Eric Chenaux - Slowly Paradise
2. Vennart - To Cure a Blizzard Upon a Plastic Sea
3. Efrim Manuel Menuck - Pissing Stars
4. Carla Bozulich - Quieter
5. The Cluttertones with Lee Pui Ming - Leeways
6. The Titillators - The Titillators
7. Sandro Perri - In Another Life
8. Jason Sharp - Stand Above the Streams
9. Ought - Room Inside the World
10. Jerusalem in My Heart - Daq'iq Tudaiq

That top four is pretty much set in stone. Those are the records that I couldn't stop playing, and which basically defined the year for me. The remaining six can be shifted around as my mood suits.

say Brett, thanks again for this. Diving into Eric Chenaux right now, some cool shit. Does he play everything on the record?

Most of it. There's some Wurlitzer here and there from Ryan Driver, most prominent on the opener and closer, but might be elsewhere, too. And Marla Hlady, a sound artist, contributes some of her spinning microphones.

[tragabigzanda]

[bodysnatcher]

I’ve honestly never listened to “MBDTF”, but jesus, it must be good if GQ ranks it that high

[Kevin Davis]

To be clear, I posted those accolades because Trag seemed to be making a weird argument about how MBDTF's impact was mostly a black thing. I think they're still a pretty good indication of an album's cultural impact (especially when paired with its commercial success), relative to the rapidly dwindling audience who cares about music in that way. The simple answer to Verb's question is that there's not going to be a direct equivalent to Appetite or Dark Side of the Moon in modern terms because music just doesn't work that way anymore, but MBDTF is about as close as we can get in the 21st century.

I think this was ultimately my point, though I think your bolded text is the crux of the entire discrepancy, not an aside where all else is consistent except this detail. It's a huge, huge factor in how records by all artists of all denominations are canonized in the modern age.

And maybe it's just me, but I have a really hard time believing that anyone on this forum speaking on behalf of what "black people" like and think has any idea what they're talking about.

[tragabigzanda]

[Kevin Davis]

I am probably the least liberal person on RM, trag. Just because you have a sense of perspective on where your credible experience begins and ends doesn't mean you don't possess the capacity to empathize.

There is a lot of music-related discourse on the internet in which white people explain to other white people how to listen to black music. Perhaps these people are experts. It rarely seems so.

[tragabigzanda]

[verb_to_trust]

I was just throwing out name recognition type albums for what it's worth guys. I actually think Appetite kind of sucks.

[tragabigzanda]

[epilogue]

I was just throwing out name recognition type albums for what it's worth guys. I actually think Appetite kind of sucks.

That's how I took it, which is partly why I offered DAMN. as a potential option.

But, more importantly, yes, Appetite is not great.

[epilogue]

If joe feels 1/10 of the frustration I felt around the Al Franken debacle, then this has all been worth it

Nah. I'm aware that I'm an old white dude with little to no meaningful experience with the topic of this discussion. I've admitted my gross ignorance with all things rap & hip-hop many times. I'm not proud of it but I'm aware of it.

I was only pointing out that your opinions and comments were not at all my opinions and comments. I didn't want to be lazily lumped in like that. Which isn't at all like the Franken discussion. It's the opposite really.

Either way, I haven't been upset or offended during any of this. I've found it to be an interesting conversation. I just want to be called out for shit I said, not shit someone else said.

[bodysnatcher]

off the top of my head...

Young Fathers — Cocoa Sugar
Wooden Shjips — V
Mudhoney — Digital Garbage
Khruangbin — Con Todo El Mundo
A.A.L. — 2012-2017

getting this back on track, i'd be remiss if i didn't give honorable mentions to Father John Misty's "God's Favorite Customer"


platypus!