Birds in Hell wrote:Remember that story Dave Abbruzzese told about chatting to Alain Johannes at a Chris Cornell solo show in the late 90s only for Vedder to roll up to say hey to Alain, not having spotted Dave, and things getting comically awkward?
"Hey! Oh...well, if it isn't ol' Daaaave Abbruzzese! Uh. Well. Uh. See ya!"
[dramatisation]
BiH, which book was that in?
According to this thread on the old board, it's in Mark Yarm's "Everybody Loves Our Town":
Dave Abbruzzese wrote:I got home and Mike called and Jeff called. I think it was difficult for everybody in the band, except for the one person I never spoke with after that, which was Eddie. The only time I ever had two words with Eddie since I got fired was two or three years later. I was sitting with Alain Johannes from Eleven on the curb after a Chris Cornell show in Seattle, and Eddie came up to us. He said, “Dave Abbruzzese,” and kinda put his arms out in greeting, because he couldn’t hide from me. And I stood up and realized how much shorter he was than I remembered. I think it was a one-armed hug. He started rambling and tried to join in our conversation, and he ended up toddling off. There was a little part of me that would’ve loved to clobber him and another part of me that felt like I already had, just by the fact that I could still sleep at night and I was still proud of everything that we accomplished.
Birds in Hell wrote:Remember that story Dave Abbruzzese told about chatting to Alain Johannes at a Chris Cornell solo show in the late 90s only for Vedder to roll up to say hey to Alain, not having spotted Dave, and things getting comically awkward?
"Hey! Oh...well, if it isn't ol' Daaaave Abbruzzese! Uh. Well. Uh. See ya!"
[dramatisation]
BiH, which book was that in?
According to this thread on the old board, it's in Mark Yarm's "Everybody Loves Our Town":
Dave Abbruzzese wrote:I got home and Mike called and Jeff called. I think it was difficult for everybody in the band, except for the one person I never spoke with after that, which was Eddie. The only time I ever had two words with Eddie since I got fired was two or three years later. I was sitting with Alain Johannes from Eleven on the curb after a Chris Cornell show in Seattle, and Eddie came up to us. He said, “Dave Abbruzzese,” and kinda put his arms out in greeting, because he couldn’t hide from me. And I stood up and realized how much shorter he was than I remembered. I think it was a one-armed hug. He started rambling and tried to join in our conversation, and he ended up toddling off. There was a little part of me that would’ve loved to clobber him and another part of me that felt like I already had, just by the fact that I could still sleep at night and I was still proud of everything that we accomplished.
Cheers. I'll add it to the ever growing list. But I at least started PJ20 today.
Birds in Hell wrote:Remember that story Dave Abbruzzese told about chatting to Alain Johannes at a Chris Cornell solo show in the late 90s only for Vedder to roll up to say hey to Alain, not having spotted Dave, and things getting comically awkward?
"Hey! Oh...well, if it isn't ol' Daaaave Abbruzzese! Uh. Well. Uh. See ya!"
[dramatisation]
BiH, which book was that in?
According to this thread on the old board, it's in Mark Yarm's "Everybody Loves Our Town":
Dave Abbruzzese wrote:I got home and Mike called and Jeff called. I think it was difficult for everybody in the band, except for the one person I never spoke with after that, which was Eddie. The only time I ever had two words with Eddie since I got fired was two or three years later. I was sitting with Alain Johannes from Eleven on the curb after a Chris Cornell show in Seattle, and Eddie came up to us. He said, “Dave Abbruzzese,” and kinda put his arms out in greeting, because he couldn’t hide from me. And I stood up and realized how much shorter he was than I remembered. I think it was a one-armed hug. He started rambling and tried to join in our conversation, and he ended up toddling off. There was a little part of me that would’ve loved to clobber him and another part of me that felt like I already had, just by the fact that I could still sleep at night and I was still proud of everything that we accomplished.
Cheers. I'll add it to the ever growing list. But I at least started PJ20 today.
It's not a bad read, but I prefer Greg? Prato's "Grunge is Dead" if we're talking Seattle rock scene oral histories.
The weird thing is that during all these years, even if someone wants to badmouth PJ nothing dirty nor interesting is ever revealed. Even Courtney Love said nothing spicy. The above article from the ''suspect'' epic lady is so naive and actually pro-pearl jam (about their past behavior and choices), and Dave Abbruzzese seems decent enough with a splash of bitterness.
Only if Beth Liembling suddenly transforms herself into a petty, hysterical and revengeful ex wife and writes a book, we will have some fun. (this is impossible).
stupidmop wrote:Burn. Do you know what year that quote is from?
'Chris Cornell solo show' would probably put it at 1999-2000. Doubt it would be at any of the recent Cornell shows because Dave A said it was a few years after he got fired.
"A man who doesn't spend time with the Jamily can never be a real man," - Don Corelone
Providing Chris Cornell's setlist.fm listing isn't incomplete, it must've been the show on November 26th, 2000; it seems to be the only Seattle show from around that time and Alain Johannes appears to have played with Chris that night.
zatara wrote:The weird thing is that during all these years, even if someone wants to badmouth PJ nothing dirty nor interesting is ever revealed. Even Courtney Love said nothing spicy. The above article from the ''suspect'' epic lady is so naive and actually pro-pearl jam (about their past behavior and choices), and Dave Abbruzzese seems decent enough with a splash of bitterness.
Only if Beth Liembling suddenly transforms herself into a petty, hysterical and revengeful ex wife and writes a book, we will have some fun. (this is impossible).
Either they're just not that interesting, or thier friends are all good about keeping secrets. I did fall into some internet hole and find some old pearl jam discussion group on google where people where discussing the bands womanising ways, someone said stone had a string of random girlfriends and ed was picking out random girls (or a girl whatever) from the crowd to take backstage, so uh theres that. 15 year old gossip woo!
Birds in Hell wrote:Providing Chris Cornell's setlist.fm listing isn't incomplete, it must've been the show on November 26th, 2000; it seems to be the only Seattle show from around that time and Alain Johannes appears to have played with Chris that night.
Cool, i was wondering if it was recent cause that would mean theres still quite a bit of resentment towards ed there. Usually i hear/read that Dave got over it real quick and couldn't care less.
I think Dave A is the only one to run his mouth about the situation. I find that kind of interesting. Ed has never publicly said anything bad about Dave A has he? I would say that means he handles it with a bit more maturity. Dave does sound bitter. Rightfully so.
stupidmop wrote:I did fall into some internet hole and find some old pearl jam discussion group on google where people where discussing the bands womanising ways, someone said stone had a string of random girlfriends
I tried my hardest picture what this could possibly look like, and now I have to go see a doctor. Thanks, ass.
stupidmop wrote:
Cool, i was wondering if it was recent cause that would mean theres still quite a bit of resentment towards ed there. Usually i hear/read that Dave got over it real quick and couldn't care less.
Since he had to sell his Grammy, I doubt he is over it completely.
stupidmop wrote:I did fall into some internet hole and find some old pearl jam discussion group on google where people where discussing the bands womanising ways, someone said stone had a string of random girlfriends
I tried my hardest picture what this could possibly look like, and now I have to go see a doctor. Thanks, ass.
Stone is pimpin', we all know this.
broken iris wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
Cool, i was wondering if it was recent cause that would mean theres still quite a bit of resentment towards ed there. Usually i hear/read that Dave got over it real quick and couldn't care less.
Since he had to sell his Grammy, I doubt he is over it completely.
Had to sell? Or sold it cause he doesn't care about it?
Or are you saying he sold it cause the sight of it made him want to run to seattle and take a shit on ed's lawn?
stupidmop wrote:
Cool, i was wondering if it was recent cause that would mean theres still quite a bit of resentment towards ed there. Usually i hear/read that Dave got over it real quick and couldn't care less.
Since he had to sell his Grammy, I doubt he is over it completely.
Had to sell? Or sold it cause he doesn't care about it?
Or are you saying he sold it cause the sight of it made him want to run to seattle and take a shit on ed's lawn?
Dave Abbruzzese wrote:
I got home and Mike called and Jeff called. I think it was difficult for everybody in the band, except for the one person I never spoke with after that, which was Eddie. The only time I ever had two words with Eddie since I got fired was two or three years later. I was sitting with Alain Johannes from Eleven on the curb after a Chris Cornell show in Seattle, and Eddie came up to us. He said, “Dave Abbruzzese,” and kinda put his arms out in greeting, because he couldn’t hide from me. And I stood up and realized how much shorter he was than I remembered. I think it was a one-armed hug. He started rambling and tried to join in our conversation, and he ended up toddling off. There was a little part of me that would’ve loved to clobber him and another part of me that felt like I already had, just by the fact that I could still sleep at night and I was still proud of everything that we accomplished.
I don't think he wanted to, he probably needed the money. Which would be a source of resentment since PJ members pull like $200k each for a show.
How much do you think he gets for anything vs/vitalogy related? Not much? idk how that stuff works. Though even if he did its not like those albums are flying of the shelves with any consistancy.
Depends on how they handled songwriting royalty crediting.
Even when you acknowledge openly who wrote what song, many bands still give each member songwriting credit on each track. Vs still sells about 19,000 a year in the US, Vitalogy around 12,000. Then there's the bootlegs, which I believe have sold over 1.5 million copies over the last 13 years and contain songs (or at minimum, Go) that he gets songwriting royalties for. Then there's the greatest hits package, which is currently outselling every single studio album....then there's international sales...then there's radio and other royalty generating functions...
I think he has music credit for almost every song on Vs. and Vitalogy, as most of those are credited to the whole band. I would think he would still get residuals from that. There is the possibility that he reached some kind of legal agreement with the band to remove his stake in the residuals, but I don't know anything about that.
broken iris wrote:Even then, it's probably $10k per year at most. You really can't support many in-home fireman poles with that income.
That would actually be $6,000 just from Vs and Vitalogy, just from the US...barring some alternative legal arrangement. Then you have his 12 appearances on the best of, which sells approximately three times what those two records sell combined. Then you have every single time one of those songs appears on a live album.
broken iris wrote:Even then, it's probably $10k per year at most. You really can't support many in-home fireman poles with that income.
That would actually be $6,000 just from Vs and Vitalogy, just from the US...barring some alternative legal arrangement. Then you have his 12 appearances on the best of, which sells approximately three times what those two records sell combined. Then you have every single time one of those songs appears on a live album.
And, what about radio play residuals? I think Better Man still gets pretty good airplay.
broken iris wrote:Even then, it's probably $10k per year at most. You really can't support many in-home fireman poles with that income.
That would actually be $6,000 just from Vs and Vitalogy, just from the US...barring some alternative legal arrangement. Then you have his 12 appearances on the best of, which sells approximately three times what those two records sell combined. Then you have every single time one of those songs appears on a live album.
And, what about radio play residuals? I think Better Man still gets pretty good airplay.
Come on. I doubt Dave A makes a dollar per album sold for those two. Pearl Jam, LLC might make $1 per album.
