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I'm still inclined to think this is more of a result of intuition than brains, but people like her and Trump so seem to understand the importance of moving the Overton Window. Making big ridiculous claims is already a win.
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Is her team denying her release of the GND was legit, or is that just other folks and they're hoping they provide cover? Some are pushing a narrative that the press embargoed release that was sent to so many was actually a GOP forgery. I guess this will work for DSA partisans, but who else is buying that BS?
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BurtReynolds wrote:I'm still inclined to think this is more of a result of intuition than brains, but people like her and Trump so seem to understand the importance of moving the Overton Window. Making big ridiculous claims is already a win.
To me this is exactly what Bernie Sanders was always trying to do, and found a lane in 2016 (not that he was the only one to do so).

If Americans get a medicare buy-in option in the next few years, it'll be because it's a (new) middle ground. A better way to finance college may happen when "free college & the current system" are the two actual sides.

The green new deal is another great example - seems more of a commitment to an ideal that can be negotiated down while still (possibly) having a good impact.

I don't think "neoliberal" policies/ideas are bad. They're probably the best actual compromise. But they are a compromise and not necessarily what you want to bring to the beginning of the negotiation. That's how things get watered down to the point where it's insufficient and ultimately a loss.

I don't buy the "If Dems over-promise and can't deliver it's a disaster" argument. The GOP has not operated this way in my lifetime, and they have more power. I like the John Kasich approach where he says "I am not a moderate, just someone who will sit down and try to find a compromise." People like Warren and Sanders have shown they can compromise when needed without sacrificing bold initiative.
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Nah, she dumb.
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At least she has the sense to take down her stupid FAQ
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When Americans finally wise up and stop watching politics as entertainment, AOC and Tomi Lahren are gonna have to do a lez porn together just to make ends meet
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Very woke of you, Bammer.
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Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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verb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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verb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
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verb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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verb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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verb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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https://news.grabien.com/story-morning- ... ping-ny-pl

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I don't understand why AOC is linked to Amazon's pull-out. She has no authority over New York City or New York state.
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