How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

[Chris_H_2]

i love up (and am probably one of a handful that loves airportman), but I think it's 2 songs too long. i would've cut diminished and parakeet.

DIMINISHED IS AMAZING AND I'M TIRED OF HEARING OTHERWISE

i didn't say it was a bad song. i just don't think it belongs on that album, particularly in the spot that it occupies.

[epilogue]

i love up (and am probably one of a handful that loves airportman), but I think it's 2 songs too long. i would've cut diminished and parakeet.

DIMINISHED IS AMAZING AND I'M TIRED OF HEARING OTHERWISE

i didn't say it was a bad song. i just don't think it belongs on that album, particularly in the spot that it occupies.

chris I swear to god

[Blaine Ryan]

I think the problem with Up is that almost everyone agrees that it’s overlong, but no one can agree what songs should’ve been cut.

[Chris_H_2]

I think the problem with Up is that almost everyone agrees that it’s overlong, but no one can agree what songs should’ve been cut.

I JUST TOLD YOU WHAT SONGS SHOULD'VE BEEN CUT!












sorry about that

[epilogue]

I think the problem with Up is that almost everyone agrees that it’s overlong, but no one can agree what songs should’ve been cut.

I, for one, do not agree that it is overlong. I think it's pretty fucking great as it is. I'd rather listen to any of the songs on UP than any of the songs on Murmur, for example.

[Rangi Guy]

I think the problem with Up is that almost everyone agrees that it’s overlong, but no one can agree what songs should’ve been cut.

I, for one, do not agree that it is overlong. I think it's pretty fucking great as it is. I'd rather listen to any of the songs on UP than any of the songs on Murmur, for example.

I agree with the first part of this, not so much the second part

[epilogue]

I think the problem with Up is that almost everyone agrees that it’s overlong, but no one can agree what songs should’ve been cut.

I, for one, do not agree that it is overlong. I think it's pretty fucking great as it is. I'd rather listen to any of the songs on UP than any of the songs on Murmur, for example.

I agree with the first part of this, not so much the second part

I know I'm in the minority on that. I'm sure I'll come around on that early stuff one of these days.

[VinylGuy]

I think Up might need a few shakes to be a perfect REM album.

[Chris_H_2]

I think Up might need a few shakes to be a perfect REM album.

is this in reference to bill berry's aneurysm?

[Norah]

I agree that the record feels about 2 songs too long but I don't want to cut anything.

[VinylGuy]

I think Up might need a few shakes to be a perfect REM album.

is this in reference to bill berry's aneurysm?

jesus christ, you are talkin about a human being.

[Chris_H_2]

I think Up might need a few shakes to be a perfect REM album.

is this in reference to bill berry's aneurysm?

jesus christ, you are talkin about a human being.

what? his departure was a known inflection point for the band, so much so that they almost seriously broke up after he decided to leave. up is the first album that they didn't have his influence or get pushed in a direction by him, and the result is an album that most people, other than die hards, find hard to digest.

[VinylGuy]

I think Up might need a few shakes to be a perfect REM album.

is this in reference to bill berry's aneurysm?

jesus christ, you are talkin about a human being.

what? his departure was a known inflection point for the band, so much so that they almost seriously broke up after he decided to leave. up is the first album that they didn't have his influence or get pushed in a direction by him, and the result is an album that most people, other than die hards, find hard to digest.

i was joking.

RM wtf, what happen?

[Chris_H_2]

I think Up might need a few shakes to be a perfect REM album.

is this in reference to bill berry's aneurysm?

jesus christ, you are talkin about a human being.

what? his departure was a known inflection point for the band, so much so that they almost seriously broke up after he decided to leave. up is the first album that they didn't have his influence or get pushed in a direction by him, and the result is an album that most people, other than die hards, find hard to digest.

i was joking.

RM wtf, what happen?

full disclosure: i meant my original post as an obviously tasteless joke and belatedly tried in vain to cover it up.

[VinylGuy]

I think Up might need a few shakes to be a perfect REM album.

is this in reference to bill berry's aneurysm?

jesus christ, you are talkin about a human being.

what? his departure was a known inflection point for the band, so much so that they almost seriously broke up after he decided to leave. up is the first album that they didn't have his influence or get pushed in a direction by him, and the result is an album that most people, other than die hards, find hard to digest.

i was joking.

RM wtf, what happen?

full disclosure: i meant my original post as an obviously tasteless joke and belatedly tried in vain to cover it up.

You should have aim higher like YEAH TOO BAD THAT FUCKER DIDNT DIE RIGHT!

that the rm i miss.

[Blaine Ryan]

I agree that the record feels about 2 songs too long but I don't want to cut anything.

I think this is about where I'm at these days. I used to not care for "You're in the Air" or "The Apologist," but I've grown to really like those songs.

I still think the album could've been a little tighter, but I also agree with dct that it's pretty great as is.

[epilogue]

I agree that the record feels about 2 songs too long but I don't want to cut anything.

I think this is about where I'm at these days. I used to not care for "You're in the Air" or "The Apologist," but I've grown to really like those songs.

I still think the album could've been a little tighter, but I also agree with dct that it's pretty great as is.

The Apologist is another major highlight of the record, for me. I love that song.

You're in the Air is solid, too. I probably like At My Most Beautiful less than most folks. It's pretty but also an unapologetic Beach Boys ripoff that doesn't always ring my bell. But I still think it's earned its place on the record. Parakeet is probably my least favorite track and the ONE you could convince me to cut. But only if you promised it would still be released as a b-side.

[Blaine Ryan]

I probably like At My Most Beautiful less than most folks. It's pretty but also an unapologetic Beach Boys ripoff that doesn't always ring my bell. But I still think it's earned its place on the record.

I'm with you there. Not my favorite by any stretch.

Parakeet is probably my least favorite track and the ONE you could convince me to cut. But only if you promised it would still be released as a b-side.

I really like the lyrics of "Parakeet." But I think one other minor change I might make is to put that and/or "Diminished" somewhere else on the record, or at least throw a more uptempo track in between them. I feel like there's one too many downer songs in a row at the end there, even though I like all of them.

[Norah]

Parakeet is great and can't be removed.

[epilogue]

goddamn it pete