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- BurtReynolds
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I'm still inclined to think this is more of a result of intuition than brains, but people like her and Trump so seem to understand the importance of moving the Overton Window. Making big ridiculous claims is already a win.
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Yeah, so we'll end up with a shit sandwich in which we effectively get a national sales tax and some convoluted bureaucracy to dole out subsidies for venture clean industry firms. Figures.B wrote:I think we're now playing the game where you suggest things that are ridiculously far to one side of the political spectrum until you manage to move the normal more in that direction.Green Habit wrote:There is no fucking way that fossil fuels will ever be phased out as quickly as they need to be without nuclear energy. It's so frustrating that people try to have this both ways.Bi_3 wrote:https://www.atr.org/green-new-deal-air- ... essary?amp
“the question isn’t how will we pay for it, but what will we do with our new shared prosperity”
And yes, there are plenty of other problems with this as well. At least I do like that it's excise tax averse.
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Is her team denying her release of the GND was legit, or is that just other folks and they're hoping they provide cover? Some are pushing a narrative that the press embargoed release that was sent to so many was actually a GOP forgery. I guess this will work for DSA partisans, but who else is buying that BS?
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Re: AOC
To me this is exactly what Bernie Sanders was always trying to do, and found a lane in 2016 (not that he was the only one to do so).BurtReynolds wrote:I'm still inclined to think this is more of a result of intuition than brains, but people like her and Trump so seem to understand the importance of moving the Overton Window. Making big ridiculous claims is already a win.
If Americans get a medicare buy-in option in the next few years, it'll be because it's a (new) middle ground. A better way to finance college may happen when "free college & the current system" are the two actual sides.
The green new deal is another great example - seems more of a commitment to an ideal that can be negotiated down while still (possibly) having a good impact.
I don't think "neoliberal" policies/ideas are bad. They're probably the best actual compromise. But they are a compromise and not necessarily what you want to bring to the beginning of the negotiation. That's how things get watered down to the point where it's insufficient and ultimately a loss.
I don't buy the "If Dems over-promise and can't deliver it's a disaster" argument. The GOP has not operated this way in my lifetime, and they have more power. I like the John Kasich approach where he says "I am not a moderate, just someone who will sit down and try to find a compromise." People like Warren and Sanders have shown they can compromise when needed without sacrificing bold initiative.
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Re: AOC
Very woke of you, Bammer.
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Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
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Re: AOC
Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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what does that mean?Bammer wrote:Alexandria O-Face-io Cortezverb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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It means that Bammer is 12.lennytheweedwhacker wrote:what does that mean?Bammer wrote:Alexandria O-Face-io Cortezverb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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Serious responses only please.Bammer wrote:Alexandria O-Face-io Cortezverb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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verb_to_trust wrote:Serious responses only please.Bammer wrote:Alexandria O-Face-io Cortezverb_to_trust wrote:Haven't found any good AOC porn parodies yet. Seems like nailin Palin was a thing right away.
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Re: AOC
I don't understand why AOC is linked to Amazon's pull-out. She has no authority over New York City or New York state.
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