Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

[dimejinky99]

Go old school and blame the people responsible. Your parents.

It’s not the fault of JJ abrams though.

[tree_]

So you're telling me Luke is naked

[dimejinky99]

You’re barking up the wrong tree


Wouldn’t be like you.

At all.

[dimejinky99]

Wow

anonymous asked:

How much input does George Lucas have in the storyline? I know Disney owns Star Wars now...but he must’ve had a rough idea of how he wanted things to pan out. Is JJ the one solely responsible for determining what happens or does Lucas and other people have input too?

Hey Nonnie,

George did write a treatment for VII. Myself and others discussed it a bit on this post, but basically, what is happening with the ST right now actually does draw from George’s original plan for the ST.

This article lays it all out there, but here’s a snippet:

“[Young] noted that a number of story elements from both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi were borrowed from Lucas’s story treatments based on The Art Of… books for both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. Young mentioned that many of the plot points for the character of Kylo Ren were already decided by Lucas: that he would betray his uncle, kill many of his fellow students, and ultimately murder his own father. Likewise, Rey would ultimately convince Luke to get out of his depression and do something about the war. The key difference is that both of these events would have happened in the same Episode VII – whereas in The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, they’re both late-movie plot points. Hidalgo added to Young’s observations by noting that Kylo Ren’s origin was actually intended to be explored in Episode VII instead of Episode VIII:In a very general sense, the original idea of 7 started midway through what we now know as 8.”

So, people whining and bitching that “George would hate KR or would never write what happened to Luke in TLJ” are wrong. It’s also worth mentioning that George never considered the EU to be canon, so the hand-wringing over that (and blaming Disney) is kind of strange, considering George never considered any of that to be Canon either. Doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it, just means that it wasn’t likely to ever have much of an impact in the actual canonverse, though DLF did reintroduce Thrawn, so people had that to look forward to–MY fingers are crossed for Bastila, Revan, and Malak.

At any rate, making a movie is a huge process that takes a whole bunch of hands and eyes, so while they may try to play up the mythology a bit and make it seem like it’s all magically done with like one person helming it all, that’s largely bullshit. A lot of eyes go over what happens with this IP because their ultimate goal is to make money, so they’re going to do whatever they think is going to make them the most money (so a story that appeals to a wider audience, as opposed to something that’s really niche).

We know that, if they think someone isn’t going to deliver, DLF has no problem with giving them the axe (see Trevorrow and Lord&Miller). What’s likely in both JJ and Rian’s case is that their vision for what came next largely aligned with what DLF wanted, so there weren’t many issues to speak of, whereas, with Trevorrow, he and his co-writer couldn’t deliver a script that they thought was good enough (thank the lord), so they went with someone they knew and trusted.

There are plenty of people who worked with George during his time at LF and still work for DLF now, so his presence, I’m sure, is still felt there and I do believe they try to stay true to the core themes of SW, it’s just that some people have forgotten over time what those core themes actually are and who these movies are directed towards (hint: revenge and suffering aren’t the end goal in the GFFA as far as endings go; it’s kids, that’s core demo, even if adults can and still do enjoy this series). George is also known to pop up on set every once in a while so he’s still around.

“No one’s ever really gone,” and I’m sure that George will still be in and around the GFFA as long as he’s able to do so.

Cheers!""

Via - pacificwanderer

[epilogue]

Yep. Virtually all of that was already known and discussed in multiple outlets. Thank you for posting it all in one place, though, for those that didn't know or still want to act like these movies are an abomination to George. You can hate the movies for a lot of reasons, but "faithfulness" or whatever shouldn't be one of them.

[stip]

this movie is so f’ing good

[dimejinky99]

Haven’t watched in a while

[Anders]

You can hate the movies for a lot of reasons

Thank you.

[epilogue]

You can hate the movies for a lot of reasons

Thank you.

[Leatherhead]

Yea this movie's awesome as fuck. Hotter than a bitch on a Friday.

[dimejinky99]

Crying happy tears watching this one

Star Wars

[dimejinky99]

From the moment Luke walks in to see Leia. To the moment he leaves

It’s gonna make me cry every time and I’m ok with that

And then that happens

[epilogue]

Watching this again...

So infinitely rewarding. I love this film.

[epilogue]

There is literally only one flaw in this movie.

Kylo's dumb Risky Business-like slide into the hallway when he first realizes he's connected to Rey.

That's it. Everything else is great.

[VinylGuy]

I still have to watch it back to back to TFA, and while i think it has a lot of flaws, its a good one yeah.

I love a lot of sequences and moments for sure.

[epilogue]

Watching this again with full context in mind... it's staggering and absurd to me that anyone would oppose this movie on Star Wars terms.

Like, if you don't like it as a movie as a movie, fine. I get it. But not liking it because it "isn't Star Wars" is just stupid.

[VinylGuy]

People said that?

I always had problems with a lot of stuff in the movie, specially in my first view. In my second, a lot of those problems kinda cleared away, and my main issues are with the movie itself and specially the comedy tone.

[epilogue]

"I saw his future... Ben Solo will turn..."

"He's our last hope."

Interesting...

[epilogue]

People said that?

I always had problems with a lot of stuff in the movie, specially in my first view. In my second, a lot of those problems kinda cleared away, and my main issues are with the movie itself and specially the comedy tone.

Totally valid. I get that and will never hold that against anyone with the same view. I disagree, of course, but it's a valid critique.

[epilogue]

Yoda confirms that it's time for "all of this to end."

Suck my balls, CooperTim.