Demos

[Joe Z]

Welcome to the board

Thanks, Stip.

I had somewhere between 60 and 70 posts (spread out over a decent amount of time) on the board before it was revamped awhile back, so have some catching up to do.

[Norah]

On whether I can tell the difference between a 320kbs mp3 and a flac, it's not really as simple as a yes or no answer. Because 320 mp3s actually sound pretty good.

I think I notice something missing in an mp3 a lot quicker if it's a live recording, whether it's official or audience recording.

But for albums, I'll admit that the difference isn't always apparent at first, but if I'm listening intently on decent equipment, I'll begin to notice something is missing. Last summer I wanted to listen to Hello Nasty and found a CD I had burned a while back. I remember driving to the beach about an hour away listening to it very loud, and by halfway through the album it was really bothering me how flat it sounded. Now, this is an album I am intimately familiar with, so slight loss of sonic nuance is going to stick out to me, especially if I'm listening to it loudly in the car when I'm by myself. It's so hard to really describe what's missing. It's like there's a dimension missing or something. Or like you're looking at a picture and the color pallet has been decreased. It might not be apparent right away, but you'll notice something isn't right if it's a nice big high resolution version you're looking at. And a lot of the times it's not even something you can pinpoint as missing, but you notice the sound doesn't hit you the way you're used to. That's especially true with an album like that where I'm intimately familiar with it. I'll be listening loudly and I'm not getting the same visceral reaction to certain parts that I know always hit me. In fact, that was what happened the first time I really noticed a difference. 10 years ago I couldn't tell a lick of difference between high quality mp3s and lossless files. Then one night I came home and was coming down from an acid trip, and decided to put on my headphones and listen to Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here album. I know the drugs were definitely heightening my awareness of it, but I remember being so disappointed with how flat all the songs sounded, when they were supposed to sound so rich and full. That's when I started rebuilding my music collection to have lossless copies of everything.

[E.H. Ruddock]

tl;dr

[Norah]

I did a piss poor job articulating it anyway.

[Birds in Hell]

I did a piss poor job articulating it anyway.

No, you didn't.

[E.H. Ruddock]

I did a piss poor job articulating it anyway.

No, I thought you explained it perfectly. I was just being an asshole.

[Norah]

You guys are the best.

[Norah]

That acid trip wasn't ten years ago though, it was like six or seven years ago.

[Fuck You Jobu]

On whether I can tell the difference between a 320kbs mp3 and a flac, it's not really as simple as a yes or no answer. Because 320 mp3s actually sound pretty good.

I think I notice something missing in an mp3 a lot quicker if it's a live recording, whether it's official or audience recording.

But for albums, I'll admit that the difference isn't always apparent at first, but if I'm listening intently on decent equipment, I'll begin to notice something is missing. Last summer I wanted to listen to Hello Nasty and found a CD I had burned a while back. I remember driving to the beach about an hour away listening to it very loud, and by halfway through the album it was really bothering me how flat it sounded. Now, this is an album I am intimately familiar with, so slight loss of sonic nuance is going to stick out to me, especially if I'm listening to it loudly in the car when I'm by myself. It's so hard to really describe what's missing. It's like there's a dimension missing or something. Or like you're looking at a picture and the color pallet has been decreased. It might not be apparent right away, but you'll notice something isn't right if it's a nice big high resolution version you're looking at. And a lot of the times it's not even something you can pinpoint as missing, but you notice the sound doesn't hit you the way you're used to. That's especially true with an album like that where I'm intimately familiar with it. I'll be listening loudly and I'm not getting the same visceral reaction to certain parts that I know always hit me. In fact, that was what happened the first time I really noticed a difference. 10 years ago I couldn't tell a lick of difference between high quality mp3s and lossless files. Then one night I came home and was coming down from an acid trip, and decided to put on my headphones and listen to Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here album. I know the drugs were definitely heightening my awareness of it, but I remember being so disappointed with how flat all the songs sounded, when they were supposed to sound so rich and full. That's when I started rebuilding my music collection to have lossless copies of everything.

[Fuck You Jobu]

That acid trip wasn't ten years ago though, it was like six or seven years ago.

[Fuck You Jobu]

Thx for explanation. I never understood the eccentricity and intense passion to lossless music, since I can't really tell above 192kb/s.

Moral of the story, wear ear plugs @ band practice and shows.

[Norah]

192s are pretty gross.

[Norah]

For me, the quality of the sound can directly affect how the music makes me feel. It hits me in a deeper place the more full it sounds. And that's why I'm passionate about quality.

[Kevin Davis]

I have no interest in seeing Pearl Jam on this tour, instead I want:

An auditorium
An audience full of RM posters
A setup consisting of top shelf audio equipment
Spenno and Chud sitting across from each other engaging in blind listening tests, trying to guess whether they're listening to lossless WAV files or 320 mp3's.

It would be like watching Frasier and Niles Crane at their wine club.

[Norah]

oh boy

[Birds in Hell]

I have no interest in seeing Pearl Jam on this tour, instead I want:

An auditorium
An audience full of RM posters
A setup consisting of top shelf audio equipment
Spenno and Chud sitting across from each other engaging in blind listening tests, trying to guess whether they're listening to lossless WAV files or 320 mp3's.

It would be like watching Frasier and Niles Crane at their wine club.

In!

[LetMeSleep]

There's been somebody pretending to be Kat in YouTube comments for quite a while, warning people that their video is against the band's wishes and so on, this may even be the same person. Who knows/cares. Obvious troll is obvious, etc.

BiH. I only read the RS article, not the comments. I assumed that the comments quoted were taken from the pit. D'oh.

I humbly apologise for being a tool.

[Suxxer]

Spoiler: show

http://qualitybootz.blogspot.de/2012/02/pearl-jam-1st-week-rehearsals.html

[Kevin Davis]

There's been somebody pretending to be Kat in YouTube comments for quite a while, warning people that their video is against the band's wishes and so on, this may even be the same person. Who knows/cares. Obvious troll is obvious, etc.

BiH. I only read the RS article, not the comments. I assumed that the comments quoted were taken from the pit. D'oh.

I humbly apologise for being a tool.

I read the comments and even responded. I had no idea it was fake. Obvious troll was not obvious to me.

[E.H. Ruddock]

For me, the quality of the sound can directly affect how the music makes me feel. It hits me in a deeper place the more full it sounds. And that's why I'm passionate about quality.

Should have said that the first time!