Song of the Moment: Cropduster

General Pearl Jam discussion.
Post Reply

So, how about that Cropduster

5 stars
21
42%
4 stars
20
40%
3 stars
7
14%
2 stars
2
4%
1 star
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 50

User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by harmless »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Most PJ stuff could be played by any other band, I hate this criticism. PJ largely play generic rock songs, they sound good because PJ plays them.
some songs are more original others are less
True. To my ears LBC and IAM are less original than this one. Different strokes.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
mkay0
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 525
Joined: Mon January 07, 2013 7:58 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by mkay0 »

Lounge Lizard wrote:Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
You and I have drastically differing opinions.
User avatar
Lounge Lizard
AnalLog
Posts: 1843
Joined: Tue July 23, 2013 6:51 am

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by Lounge Lizard »

mkay0 wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
You and I have drastically differing opinions.
and that's ok
Image Image
iceagecoming
A Return To Form
Posts: 141
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 11:13 am
Location: Saint Petersburg

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by iceagecoming »

Lounge Lizard wrote:Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for.
User avatar
Norah
Poster of the Year
Posts: 37327
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:04 pm
Location: September 2020 Poster of the Month

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by Norah »

Cropduster, Ghost, Get Right, and Green Disease are all fantastic songs. Cropduster is definitely the best of the group though.
User avatar
HardTI
AnalLog
Posts: 1458
Joined: Fri February 22, 2013 5:59 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by HardTI »

iceagecoming wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for.
Put on some headphones and listen to the drums on Ghost. Matt does some really nice work on that song.

Green Disease is just a standard PJ song, to me, that I happen to really love. I dig the lyrics a lot and it's catchy as hell.
You have to shave your nipples if you want to be with me.
User avatar
harmless
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 17337
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by harmless »

A lot of people comment on the lacking drums on Green Disease. Lots of ride in the intro and other bits. But you know what makes up for that imo? A bass drum on every beat of the bar, like in Thrash Metal. matt hasn't done that in any fast songs since and I have no idea why. It lends the song so much urgency.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
User avatar
HardTI
AnalLog
Posts: 1458
Joined: Fri February 22, 2013 5:59 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by HardTI »

harmless wrote:A lot of people comment on the lacking drums on Green Disease. Lots of ride in the intro and other bits. But you know what makes up for that imo? A bass drum on every beat of the bar, like in Thrash Metal. matt hasn't done that in any fast songs since and I have no idea why. It lends the song so much urgency.
fucking spot on :nice:
You have to shave your nipples if you want to be with me.
User avatar
EJ
Fake NYC Setlist Relayer
Posts: 7053
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:15 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by EJ »

For PJ, Cropduster is anything but a standard rock song.
iceagecoming
A Return To Form
Posts: 141
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 11:13 am
Location: Saint Petersburg

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by iceagecoming »

HardTI wrote:
iceagecoming wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Don't know what you guys find in all this RA filler. Cropduster, Ghost, Green Decease are all such generic straightforward rockers. Could be played by any band at all. They add nothing to PJ legacy if you ask me. In fact I would wish against having such songs represent Pearl Jam in general music discussions.
Ghost and Green Disease I'd agree with you, but this song has a lot more going on then you're giving it credit for.
Put on some headphones and listen to the drums on Ghost. Matt does some really nice work on that song.

Green Disease is just a standard PJ song, to me, that I happen to really love. I dig the lyrics a lot and it's catchy as hell.
The drums aren't enough to save Ghost for me, it's the music that does nothing for me. Not to say I hate it, I just have little desire to listen to it. I enjoy Green Disease when I hear it, but it feels like a definite B-side.
User avatar
stip
The worst
Posts: 42946
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by stip »

Ghost has that great solo
digster
Rank This Poster
Posts: 3972
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 1:10 am

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by digster »

Ghost is one of those songs where I get the criticisms; it sounds tired, on the surface seems a little threadbare, a few lyrics are a little suspect, but there's just something about that song that does it. The way that chorus thinks you're leading up to a bigger moment before it takes it away from you is pretty dark.

Green Disease, on the other hand, does nothing for me. It's one of the few songs before S/T that I don't really find anything redeeming in.
User avatar
stip
The worst
Posts: 42946
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by stip »

digster wrote:Ghost is one of those songs where I get the criticisms; it sounds tired, on the surface seems a little threadbare, a few lyrics are a little suspect, but there's just something about that song that does it. The way that chorus thinks you're leading up to a bigger moment before it takes it away from you is pretty dark.

Green Disease, on the other hand, does nothing for me. It's one of the few songs before S/T that I don't really find anything redeeming in.
there we go digster--totally in agreement :)


I think at this point both ghost and cropduster are in my riot act top 5

I am mine
save you
can't keep
ghost
cropduster

And I like 1/2 full and you are fine, I guess. And sometimes help help. that's not a lot for an album of 15 songs...
User avatar
epilogue
We All We Got, We All We Need
Posts: 84850
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:33 pm
Location: Ghorman
Contact:

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by epilogue »

I can't think of one thing I dislike about Riot Act.
User avatar
stip
The worst
Posts: 42946
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by stip »

durdencommatyler wrote:I can't think of one thing I dislike about Riot Act.
I can think of quite a bit, apparently
User avatar
Norah
Poster of the Year
Posts: 37327
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:04 pm
Location: September 2020 Poster of the Month

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by Norah »

Sometimes I skip Love Boat Captain.
User avatar
epilogue
We All We Got, We All We Need
Posts: 84850
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:33 pm
Location: Ghorman
Contact:

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by epilogue »

stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I can't think of one thing I dislike about Riot Act.
I can think of quite a bit, apparently
Right, that's why I.... replied.... to you. :?
User avatar
epilogue
We All We Got, We All We Need
Posts: 84850
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:33 pm
Location: Ghorman
Contact:

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by epilogue »

cutuphalfdead wrote:Sometimes I skip Love Boat Captain.
I mean, I tend to listen to whole albums. But sometimes I skip. However, Riot Act, though not my #1 favorite PJ album, is the only PJ album that I never skip around on.
User avatar
Wendy Carlos's Twin
Future Drummer
Posts: 2809
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 9:37 am

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by Wendy Carlos's Twin »

LOL at the guy who thinks "Cropduster" is a "generic straightforward rocker".

Have you even listened to the song? I mean, more than just the first 5 seconds before you reach for the "skip" button?
User avatar
stip
The worst
Posts: 42946
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Re: Song of the Moment: Cropduster

Post by stip »

durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I can't think of one thing I dislike about Riot Act.
I can think of quite a bit, apparently
Right, that's why I.... replied.... to you. :?
I just wanted to keep this moment going :(
Post Reply