E.H. Ruddock wrote:Oh Lando and Palpatine are absolutely fan service. It just feels like if all of this fan service were to be in there, it would be J.J. admitting he is trying to correct what Johnson did. Not saying I liked what Johnson did, but he at least tried something. I'm sure by the end of this, Rey's parents will be corrected to be Skywalkers. And Snoke's background will be Palpatine, etc. Why else would Rey see an Anakin force ghost? And don't say because she's a Jedi. If that's the case, give us a Samuel Jackson force ghost, or Plo Koon, or every single Jedi that ever existed, cheering her on in a final battle. And just because Avengers did it, that doesn't mean it's good
JJ has to correct what RJ did, because there was so little to build on from TLJ.
But Rey will not be part of the Skywalker family.
You’re literally on drugs.
Rian left JJ with a completely open field. something his skill set is built for.
I don’t even know how far he might go but it won’t be safe. In fact it’s going to shake us.
I can agree to completely open field. I think that’s close to what I said. Very little to build on. Have to start where he left off with TFA instead.
I like most of the Marvel-movies, Rogue One, even TFA and Solo. There’s not much in those movies of the old school happy and hokey Disney movies of the 80s and 90s.
Disney got dark as fuck in the ‘80s. God I want that Disney back.
I like most of the Marvel-movies, Rogue One, even TFA and Solo. There’s not much in those movies of the old school happy and hokey Disney movies of the 80s and 90s.
Disney got dark as fuck in the ‘80s. God I want that Disney back.
Which movies? I remember they put out a lot of shit when I grew up.
I like most of the Marvel-movies, Rogue One, even TFA and Solo. There’s not much in those movies of the old school happy and hokey Disney movies of the 80s and 90s.
Disney got dark as fuck in the ‘80s. God I want that Disney back.
Which movies? I remember they put out a lot of shit when I grew up.
Return to Oz, Something Wicked This Way Comes, The Watcher in the Woods, etc.
VinylGuy wrote:yeah, whats the deal with the force ghosts? They have already appeared before. Yoda´s appearance in TLJ is one of the finest moments on the new franchise, Obi Wan´s appearance is good in the OT....
Whats the problem with more force ghosts?
The Yoda force ghost felt forced to me. Worst force ghost scene yet.
The Yoda scene in TLJ?
Its one of the most beautiful and important scenes in all SW.
I like most of the Marvel-movies, Rogue One, even TFA and Solo. There’s not much in those movies of the old school happy and hokey Disney movies of the 80s and 90s.
Disney got dark as fuck in the ‘80s. God I want that Disney back.
Which movies? I remember they put out a lot of shit when I grew up.
Return to Oz, Something Wicked This Way Comes, The Watcher in the Woods, etc.
dimejinky99 wrote:I wanna see force ghost Anakin in this more than anything.
God, why? They’ve already ruined the one appearance it’s made by replacing Sebastian Shaw.
Sit with me a minute.
What more of a perfect way to tie all this together, than having Anakin (hayden) in the prequels, appearing as a force ghost in ROTJ and later coming to school his progeny in the final film?
It makes all the sense in the world.
God fuck no. If you want him to appear as he was before he was tarnished by the dark side and bring it back full circle with TPM, then he should be the little kid force ghost. You just have a massive boner for Christensen and won’t rest until he’s the only version of Anakin we have. Fuck it, just replace David Prowse and Sebastian Shaw with him and go ahead and edit that little tow head bastard that was in TPM.
It makes no fucking sense AT ALL for his force ghost to be played by him. And if you’re gonna switch him out, then why wasn’t Alec Guinness replaced?
NO MORE GODFUCKINGDAMN ANAKIN FORCE GHOST LUCASFILMDISNEY!!!!!!
David Prowse as a force ghost would be weird. Sebastian Shaw ok, but he was only in a scene under heavy make up. It makes perfect sense to use the one that played Anakin as a grown up in two movies. I actually think your hate of the prequels prevents you from seeing the logic in this,
I don’t hate the prequels. I probably rate Revenge of the Sith higher than anyone here. And I don’t hate Attack of the Clones. The only one I really don’t care for is TPM, but it has the best lightsaber battles in the whole franchise.
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I like most of the Marvel-movies, Rogue One, even TFA and Solo. There’s not much in those movies of the old school happy and hokey Disney movies of the 80s and 90s.
Disney got dark as fuck in the ‘80s. God I want that Disney back.
Which movies? I remember they put out a lot of shit when I grew up.
Return to Oz, Something Wicked This Way Comes, The Watcher in the Woods, etc.
Probably never seen those, doubt I will.
You’re missing out. RTO and SWTWC are two of my all-time favorites.
I like most of the Marvel-movies, Rogue One, even TFA and Solo. There’s not much in those movies of the old school happy and hokey Disney movies of the 80s and 90s.
Disney got dark as fuck in the ‘80s. God I want that Disney back.
Which movies? I remember they put out a lot of shit when I grew up.
Return to Oz, Something Wicked This Way Comes, The Watcher in the Woods, etc.
Probably never seen those, doubt I will.
You’re missing out. RTO and SWTWC are two of my all-time favorites.
dimejinky99 wrote:I wanna see force ghost Anakin in this more than anything.
God, why? They’ve already ruined the one appearance it’s made by replacing Sebastian Shaw.
Sit with me a minute.
What more of a perfect way to tie all this together, than having Anakin (hayden) in the prequels, appearing as a force ghost in ROTJ and later coming to school his progeny in the final film?
It makes all the sense in the world.
God fuck no. If you want him to appear as he was before he was tarnished by the dark side and bring it back full circle with TPM, then he should be the little kid force ghost. You just have a massive boner for Christensen and won’t rest until he’s the only version of Anakin we have. Fuck it, just replace David Prowse and Sebastian Shaw with him and go ahead and edit that little tow head bastard that was in TPM.
It makes no fucking sense AT ALL for his force ghost to be played by him. And if you’re gonna switch him out, then why wasn’t Alec Guinness replaced?
NO MORE GODFUCKINGDAMN ANAKIN FORCE GHOST LUCASFILMDISNEY!!!!!!
David Prowse as a force ghost would be weird. Sebastian Shaw ok, but he was only in a scene under heavy make up. It makes perfect sense to use the one that played Anakin as a grown up in two movies. I actually think your hate of the prequels prevents you from seeing the logic in this,
I don’t hate the prequels. I probably rate Revenge of the Sith higher than anyone here. And I don’t hate Attack of the Clones. The only one I really don’t care for is TPM, but it has the best lightsaber battles in the whole franchise.
Surprised by that answer. I rate Revenge Of The Sith quite highly.
dimejinky99 wrote:I wanna see force ghost Anakin in this more than anything.
God, why? They’ve already ruined the one appearance it’s made by replacing Sebastian Shaw.
Sit with me a minute.
What more of a perfect way to tie all this together, than having Anakin (hayden) in the prequels, appearing as a force ghost in ROTJ and later coming to school his progeny in the final film?
It makes all the sense in the world.
God fuck no. If you want him to appear as he was before he was tarnished by the dark side and bring it back full circle with TPM, then he should be the little kid force ghost. You just have a massive boner for Christensen and won’t rest until he’s the only version of Anakin we have. Fuck it, just replace David Prowse and Sebastian Shaw with him and go ahead and edit that little tow head bastard that was in TPM.
It makes no fucking sense AT ALL for his force ghost to be played by him. And if you’re gonna switch him out, then why wasn’t Alec Guinness replaced?
NO MORE GODFUCKINGDAMN ANAKIN FORCE GHOST LUCASFILMDISNEY!!!!!!
David Prowse as a force ghost would be weird. Sebastian Shaw ok, but he was only in a scene under heavy make up. It makes perfect sense to use the one that played Anakin as a grown up in two movies. I actually think your hate of the prequels prevents you from seeing the logic in this,
I don’t hate the prequels. I probably rate Revenge of the Sith higher than anyone here. And I don’t hate Attack of the Clones. The only one I really don’t care for is TPM, but it has the best lightsaber battles in the whole franchise.
I know you’re not saying you forgive awful films coz lazer swordz but can you or we move away from that and back into why Anakin and Obi wan are vital presences in this last film owing to...the..awful films with lazer swordz they were main characters in and that started all this and yeah it’s kinda their story.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I just feel like anakin as a force ghost would be nothing but fan service at this point. who would he appear to? Rey? What would be the point of that?
IF Anakin appears, it should be to Kylo Ren. I could totally get behind that. Especially if it's a last ditch effort to turn him. I think Anakin appearing to Rey would be mostly weird. Not saying they couldn't pull it off, but on paper I'm not a fan of that idea.
I don't think Anakin is necessary but I do think his inclusion could be really cool and kind of profound depending on how it was incorporated.
dimejinky99 wrote:I wanna see force ghost Anakin in this more than anything.
God, why? They’ve already ruined the one appearance it’s made by replacing Sebastian Shaw.
Sit with me a minute.
What more of a perfect way to tie all this together, than having Anakin (hayden) in the prequels, appearing as a force ghost in ROTJ and later coming to school his progeny in the final film?
It makes all the sense in the world.
God fuck no. If you want him to appear as he was before he was tarnished by the dark side and bring it back full circle with TPM, then he should be the little kid force ghost. You just have a massive boner for Christensen and won’t rest until he’s the only version of Anakin we have. Fuck it, just replace David Prowse and Sebastian Shaw with him and go ahead and edit that little tow head bastard that was in TPM.
It makes no fucking sense AT ALL for his force ghost to be played by him. And if you’re gonna switch him out, then why wasn’t Alec Guinness replaced?
NO MORE GODFUCKINGDAMN ANAKIN FORCE GHOST LUCASFILMDISNEY!!!!!!
David Prowse as a force ghost would be weird. Sebastian Shaw ok, but he was only in a scene under heavy make up. It makes perfect sense to use the one that played Anakin as a grown up in two movies. I actually think your hate of the prequels prevents you from seeing the logic in this,
I don’t hate the prequels. I probably rate Revenge of the Sith higher than anyone here. And I don’t hate Attack of the Clones. The only one I really don’t care for is TPM, but it has the best lightsaber battles in the whole franchise.
I know you’re not saying you forgive awful films coz lazer swordz but can you or we move away from that and back into why Anakin and Obi wan are vital presences in this last film owing to...the..awful films with lazer swordz they were main characters in and that started all this and yeah it’s kinda their story.
But it’s not their story. The OT is Luke’s story. The PT is their story that Lucas shoehorned around to try and make everything fit. The ST is Rey’s story. And Ben Ren’s, I guess. The older characters in this new trilogy is window dressing aimed at bringing nostalgic asses like us into the seats.
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
dimejinky99 wrote:I wanna see force ghost Anakin in this more than anything.
God, why? They’ve already ruined the one appearance it’s made by replacing Sebastian Shaw.
Sit with me a minute.
What more of a perfect way to tie all this together, than having Anakin (hayden) in the prequels, appearing as a force ghost in ROTJ and later coming to school his progeny in the final film?
It makes all the sense in the world.
God fuck no. If you want him to appear as he was before he was tarnished by the dark side and bring it back full circle with TPM, then he should be the little kid force ghost. You just have a massive boner for Christensen and won’t rest until he’s the only version of Anakin we have. Fuck it, just replace David Prowse and Sebastian Shaw with him and go ahead and edit that little tow head bastard that was in TPM.
It makes no fucking sense AT ALL for his force ghost to be played by him. And if you’re gonna switch him out, then why wasn’t Alec Guinness replaced?
NO MORE GODFUCKINGDAMN ANAKIN FORCE GHOST LUCASFILMDISNEY!!!!!!
David Prowse as a force ghost would be weird. Sebastian Shaw ok, but he was only in a scene under heavy make up. It makes perfect sense to use the one that played Anakin as a grown up in two movies. I actually think your hate of the prequels prevents you from seeing the logic in this,
I don’t hate the prequels. I probably rate Revenge of the Sith higher than anyone here. And I don’t hate Attack of the Clones. The only one I really don’t care for is TPM, but it has the best lightsaber battles in the whole franchise.
I know you’re not saying you forgive awful films coz lazer swordz but can you or we move away from that and back into why Anakin and Obi wan are vital presences in this last film owing to...the..awful films with lazer swordz they were main characters in and that started all this and yeah it’s kinda their story.
But it’s not their story. The OT is Luke’s story. The PT is their story that Lucas shoehorned around to try and make everything fit. The ST is Rey’s story. And Ben Ren’s, I guess. The older characters in this new trilogy is window dressing aimed at bringing nostalgic asses like us into the seats.
I think it's all of those things. These films, as individual pieces can be seen and evaluated as individual pieces. They can also be seen and evaluated as trilogies. And they can also be seen and evaluated as one smaller pieces of one big story. There's nothing wrong with appreciating and/or criticizing them on all of those levels at the same time.
dimejinky99 wrote:I wanna see force ghost Anakin in this more than anything.
God, why? They’ve already ruined the one appearance it’s made by replacing Sebastian Shaw.
Sit with me a minute.
What more of a perfect way to tie all this together, than having Anakin (hayden) in the prequels, appearing as a force ghost in ROTJ and later coming to school his progeny in the final film?
It makes all the sense in the world.
God fuck no. If you want him to appear as he was before he was tarnished by the dark side and bring it back full circle with TPM, then he should be the little kid force ghost. You just have a massive boner for Christensen and won’t rest until he’s the only version of Anakin we have. Fuck it, just replace David Prowse and Sebastian Shaw with him and go ahead and edit that little tow head bastard that was in TPM.
It makes no fucking sense AT ALL for his force ghost to be played by him. And if you’re gonna switch him out, then why wasn’t Alec Guinness replaced?
NO MORE GODFUCKINGDAMN ANAKIN FORCE GHOST LUCASFILMDISNEY!!!!!!
David Prowse as a force ghost would be weird. Sebastian Shaw ok, but he was only in a scene under heavy make up. It makes perfect sense to use the one that played Anakin as a grown up in two movies. I actually think your hate of the prequels prevents you from seeing the logic in this,
I don’t hate the prequels. I probably rate Revenge of the Sith higher than anyone here. And I don’t hate Attack of the Clones. The only one I really don’t care for is TPM, but it has the best lightsaber battles in the whole franchise.
I know you’re not saying you forgive awful films coz lazer swordz but can you or we move away from that and back into why Anakin and Obi wan are vital presences in this last film owing to...the..awful films with lazer swordz they were main characters in and that started all this and yeah it’s kinda their story.
But it’s not their story. The OT is Luke’s story. The PT is their story that Lucas shoehorned around to try and make everything fit. The ST is Rey’s story. And Ben Ren’s, I guess. The older characters in this new trilogy is window dressing aimed at bringing nostalgic asses like us into the seats.
It’s all one story, not three or nine.
Ha ha!
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
durdencommatyler wrote:I think it's all of those things. These films, as individual pieces can be seen and evaluated as individual pieces. They can also be seen and evaluated as trilogies. And they can also be seen and evaluated as one smaller pieces of one big story. There's nothing wrong with appreciating and/or criticizing them on all of those levels at the same time.
The same with an episode or season of Game Of Thrones.
I’ve always seen it as one long story. Well come around to that once the saga is finished and on our shelves and no longer see it as PT/OT/ST. I hope anyways.
dimejinky99 wrote:I’ve always seen it as one long story. Well come around to that once the saga is finished and on our shelves and no longer see it as PT/OT/ST. I hope anyways.
You’re so cute.
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
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