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Monkey_Driven wrote:I loved everything about Tyrion and Jaime's last scene together.
Super touching. wish they had more time together :(
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Simple Torture wrote:
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Strat wrote:What was most frustrating about this story is also the best part about it.

There isn't every really some some big major hero moment. Storming the castle, saving the princess, final hero blow to the villain. That's not how this world works and its made it feel so real and magnificently frustrating. We never get that satisfying moment. Its been poison, natural causes, manipulation, accidents...

Ned gets his head chopped off
Rob gets murdered by a conspirator
Joffrey gets poising by tyrells
Robert Botheration gets killed by a boar
Hitler shot himself in a bunker etc..

The conclusion of this story wont be any different.
holy shit, did i miss the episode where hitler made a cameo?!
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I’m reading people complaining about unrealistic dragon fire and how it is projected when in flight at speed, but how air expands in an explosion and allows for the explosion to happen that way this enabling the explosion to be so explosive but that’s not possible given the trajectory and speed of the dragon and the wind speed it’s facing so it’s not possible that it explodes that way



It’s a fire breathing dragon in a fantasy based tv show lads


People will complain about anything.
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Well it depends on the airspeed velocity of an unladen dragon
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Random thought for anyone complaining Dany turned too quickly (you’re wrong btw)

If they’d really let her in a spoon fed obvious ‘she’s going crazy!’ narrative over weeks or last season,
Do you really think jon and Tyrion etc would have ever let her get to kings landing and still support her claim?
Or
Perhaps they did and needed her for the showdown with the army of the dead, so....
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Mecca wrote:Well it depends on the airspeed velocity of an unladen dragon

If we’re going there I want to know how a 90lb Young girl has the upper body strength to hold onto a dragon doing a nose at full speed upon a fleet, and she doesn’t get blown off
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Mecca wrote:Well it depends on the airspeed velocity of an unladen dragon

If we’re going there I want to know how a 90lb Young girl has the upper body strength to hold onto a dragon doing a nose at full speed upon a fleet, and she doesn’t get blown off
Expert positioning on its scales and horns
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Also, if she’s 90lbs...
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Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Mecca wrote:Well it depends on the airspeed velocity of an unladen dragon

If we’re going there I want to know how a 90lb Young girl has the upper body strength to hold onto a dragon doing a nose at full speed upon a fleet, and she doesn’t get blown off
Expert positioning on its scales and horns

That’s are facing the wrong way?

And just how is her dress always flawless when she gets off?
And is she on heels? Or is there spikes she can dig in for grip?
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Strat wrote:What was most frustrating about this story is also the best part about it.

There isn't every really some some big major hero moment. Storming the castle, saving the princess, final hero blow to the villain. That's not how this world works and its made it feel so real and magnificently frustrating. We never get that satisfying moment. Its been poison, natural causes, manipulation, accidents...

Ned gets his head chopped off
Rob gets murdered by a conspirator
Joffrey gets poising by tyrells
Robert Botheration gets killed by a boar
Hitler shot himself in a bunker etc..

The conclusion of this story wont be any different.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Mecca wrote:Well it depends on the airspeed velocity of an unladen dragon

If we’re going there I want to know how a 90lb Young girl has the upper body strength to hold onto a dragon doing a nose at full speed upon a fleet, and she doesn’t get blown off
Expert positioning on its scales and horns

That’s are facing the wrong way?

And just how is her dress always flawless when she gets off?
And is she on heels? Or is there spikes she can dig in for grip?
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Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Mecca wrote:Well it depends on the airspeed velocity of an unladen dragon

If we’re going there I want to know how a 90lb Young girl has the upper body strength to hold onto a dragon doing a nose at full speed upon a fleet, and she doesn’t get blown off
Expert positioning on its scales and horns

That’s are facing the wrong way?

And just how is her dress always flawless when she gets off?
And is she on heels? Or is there spikes she can dig in for grip?
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You had that gif to hand alarmingly quickly.
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bune wrote:
Strat wrote:What was most frustrating about this story is also the best part about it.

There isn't every really some some big major hero moment. Storming the castle, saving the princess, final hero blow to the villain. That's not how this world works and its made it feel so real and magnificently frustrating. We never get that satisfying moment. Its been poison, natural causes, manipulation, accidents...

Ned gets his head chopped off
Rob gets murdered by a conspirator
Joffrey gets poising by tyrells
Robert Botheration gets killed by a boar
Hitler shot himself in a bunker etc..

The conclusion of this story wont be any different.
Lots of reasons, but I’ve been saying the same thing about the actual twist. Execution was always the problem because it didn’t feel earned
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Strat wrote:
In a new interview with Entertainment Weekly, actor Conleth Hill, aka Varys, weighed in on the demise of his character in last night’s penultimate episode, “The Bells”. While discussing his fiery exit, he shared his thoughts on the post-Martin seasons.

“As a whole it’s been overwhelmingly positive and brilliant but I suppose the last couple seasons weren’t my favorite,” Hill admitted, later adding: “I can’t complain because it’s six great seasons and I had some great scenes these last two seasons. But that’s when It changed for me a little.”

That change, he added, involved the lack of Martin’s narratives, particularly the way he wrestled with the more fringe characters of Westeros. He explained his reasoning:

“I loved the traveling with [Tyrion actor Peter Dinklage] and just the two of us in that cart. I think the stuff that was said in there understood the nature of freaks and outsiders so precisely. In a way, that was lost when we got past [the narrative in George R.R. Martin’s] books. That special niche interest in weirdos wasn’t as effective as it had been. Last season and this season there were great scenes and then I’d come in and kind of give a weather report at the end of them — ‘film at 11.’ So I thought he was losing his knowledge. If he was such an intelligent man and he had such resources, how come he didn’t know about things? That added to my dismay. It’s now being rectified with getting a great and noble ending. But that was frustrating for a couple seasons.”

Of his own fate, Hill was equally transparent:

“I took it very personally. I took it as a person, not as an actor or an artist. I understood the reactions of previous actors who had been in the same position a lot more than I did at the time. You can’t help feeling that you failed in some way, that you haven’t lived up to some expectation that you didn’t know about. The only thing that consoles you is people who worked a lot harder than you are in the same boat. So that helps. I don’t think anybody who hasn’t been through it can identify with it. They think, ‘What’s all the fuss about? You’re all finishing anyway.’ But you take it personally, you can’t help it.”

Towards the end of the interview, Hill eventually admitted that “this is all personal and selfish” and stressed that the series altogether was “a fantastic journey,” but again, he’s hardly alone.

Game of Thrones ends its legendary eight-season run on Sunday. As you wait, catch up with senior writer Andrew Bloom’s incredible weekly recaps, starting with this past Sunday’s review. In related news, Martin’s sixth book still has no release date and he still has another one to deliver after that.

Yikes.
Man, I love Conlith Hill. Phenomenal actor. His portrayal of Varys will forever be one of my all time favorite things about Game of Thrones.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
In a new interview with Entertainment Weekly, actor Conleth Hill, aka Varys, weighed in on the demise of his character in last night’s penultimate episode, “The Bells”. While discussing his fiery exit, he shared his thoughts on the post-Martin seasons.

“As a whole it’s been overwhelmingly positive and brilliant but I suppose the last couple seasons weren’t my favorite,” Hill admitted, later adding: “I can’t complain because it’s six great seasons and I had some great scenes these last two seasons. But that’s when It changed for me a little.”

That change, he added, involved the lack of Martin’s narratives, particularly the way he wrestled with the more fringe characters of Westeros. He explained his reasoning:

“I loved the traveling with [Tyrion actor Peter Dinklage] and just the two of us in that cart. I think the stuff that was said in there understood the nature of freaks and outsiders so precisely. In a way, that was lost when we got past [the narrative in George R.R. Martin’s] books. That special niche interest in weirdos wasn’t as effective as it had been. Last season and this season there were great scenes and then I’d come in and kind of give a weather report at the end of them — ‘film at 11.’ So I thought he was losing his knowledge. If he was such an intelligent man and he had such resources, how come he didn’t know about things? That added to my dismay. It’s now being rectified with getting a great and noble ending. But that was frustrating for a couple seasons.”

Of his own fate, Hill was equally transparent:

“I took it very personally. I took it as a person, not as an actor or an artist. I understood the reactions of previous actors who had been in the same position a lot more than I did at the time. You can’t help feeling that you failed in some way, that you haven’t lived up to some expectation that you didn’t know about. The only thing that consoles you is people who worked a lot harder than you are in the same boat. So that helps. I don’t think anybody who hasn’t been through it can identify with it. They think, ‘What’s all the fuss about? You’re all finishing anyway.’ But you take it personally, you can’t help it.”

Towards the end of the interview, Hill eventually admitted that “this is all personal and selfish” and stressed that the series altogether was “a fantastic journey,” but again, he’s hardly alone.

Game of Thrones ends its legendary eight-season run on Sunday. As you wait, catch up with senior writer Andrew Bloom’s incredible weekly recaps, starting with this past Sunday’s review. In related news, Martin’s sixth book still has no release date and he still has another one to deliver after that.

Yikes.
Man, I love Conlith Hill. Phenomenal actor. His portrayal of Varys will forever be one of my all time favorite things about Game of Thrones.

Tell me you noticed he was trying to use the little bird to poison Dany?

And he had a whole pile of those messages about jon in front of him? Ready to send

Why take the rings off though?
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Monkey_Driven wrote:I loved everything about Tyrion and Jaime's last scene together.
Other than HOW that scene was set up and the overall logistics around it, yes. I totally agree. As a soft character moment between two of our major players it was outstanding.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
In a new interview with Entertainment Weekly, actor Conleth Hill, aka Varys, weighed in on the demise of his character in last night’s penultimate episode, “The Bells”. While discussing his fiery exit, he shared his thoughts on the post-Martin seasons.

“As a whole it’s been overwhelmingly positive and brilliant but I suppose the last couple seasons weren’t my favorite,” Hill admitted, later adding: “I can’t complain because it’s six great seasons and I had some great scenes these last two seasons. But that’s when It changed for me a little.”

That change, he added, involved the lack of Martin’s narratives, particularly the way he wrestled with the more fringe characters of Westeros. He explained his reasoning:

“I loved the traveling with [Tyrion actor Peter Dinklage] and just the two of us in that cart. I think the stuff that was said in there understood the nature of freaks and outsiders so precisely. In a way, that was lost when we got past [the narrative in George R.R. Martin’s] books. That special niche interest in weirdos wasn’t as effective as it had been. Last season and this season there were great scenes and then I’d come in and kind of give a weather report at the end of them — ‘film at 11.’ So I thought he was losing his knowledge. If he was such an intelligent man and he had such resources, how come he didn’t know about things? That added to my dismay. It’s now being rectified with getting a great and noble ending. But that was frustrating for a couple seasons.”

Of his own fate, Hill was equally transparent:

“I took it very personally. I took it as a person, not as an actor or an artist. I understood the reactions of previous actors who had been in the same position a lot more than I did at the time. You can’t help feeling that you failed in some way, that you haven’t lived up to some expectation that you didn’t know about. The only thing that consoles you is people who worked a lot harder than you are in the same boat. So that helps. I don’t think anybody who hasn’t been through it can identify with it. They think, ‘What’s all the fuss about? You’re all finishing anyway.’ But you take it personally, you can’t help it.”

Towards the end of the interview, Hill eventually admitted that “this is all personal and selfish” and stressed that the series altogether was “a fantastic journey,” but again, he’s hardly alone.

Game of Thrones ends its legendary eight-season run on Sunday. As you wait, catch up with senior writer Andrew Bloom’s incredible weekly recaps, starting with this past Sunday’s review. In related news, Martin’s sixth book still has no release date and he still has another one to deliver after that.

Yikes.
Man, I love Conlith Hill. Phenomenal actor. His portrayal of Varys will forever be one of my all time favorite things about Game of Thrones.

Tell me you noticed he was trying to use the little bird to poison Dany?

And he had a whole pile of those messages about jon in front of him? Ready to send

Why take the rings off though?
I was wondering myself the meaning behind the rings
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Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
In a new interview with Entertainment Weekly, actor Conleth Hill, aka Varys, weighed in on the demise of his character in last night’s penultimate episode, “The Bells”. While discussing his fiery exit, he shared his thoughts on the post-Martin seasons.

“As a whole it’s been overwhelmingly positive and brilliant but I suppose the last couple seasons weren’t my favorite,” Hill admitted, later adding: “I can’t complain because it’s six great seasons and I had some great scenes these last two seasons. But that’s when It changed for me a little.”

That change, he added, involved the lack of Martin’s narratives, particularly the way he wrestled with the more fringe characters of Westeros. He explained his reasoning:

“I loved the traveling with [Tyrion actor Peter Dinklage] and just the two of us in that cart. I think the stuff that was said in there understood the nature of freaks and outsiders so precisely. In a way, that was lost when we got past [the narrative in George R.R. Martin’s] books. That special niche interest in weirdos wasn’t as effective as it had been. Last season and this season there were great scenes and then I’d come in and kind of give a weather report at the end of them — ‘film at 11.’ So I thought he was losing his knowledge. If he was such an intelligent man and he had such resources, how come he didn’t know about things? That added to my dismay. It’s now being rectified with getting a great and noble ending. But that was frustrating for a couple seasons.”

Of his own fate, Hill was equally transparent:

“I took it very personally. I took it as a person, not as an actor or an artist. I understood the reactions of previous actors who had been in the same position a lot more than I did at the time. You can’t help feeling that you failed in some way, that you haven’t lived up to some expectation that you didn’t know about. The only thing that consoles you is people who worked a lot harder than you are in the same boat. So that helps. I don’t think anybody who hasn’t been through it can identify with it. They think, ‘What’s all the fuss about? You’re all finishing anyway.’ But you take it personally, you can’t help it.”

Towards the end of the interview, Hill eventually admitted that “this is all personal and selfish” and stressed that the series altogether was “a fantastic journey,” but again, he’s hardly alone.

Game of Thrones ends its legendary eight-season run on Sunday. As you wait, catch up with senior writer Andrew Bloom’s incredible weekly recaps, starting with this past Sunday’s review. In related news, Martin’s sixth book still has no release date and he still has another one to deliver after that.

Yikes.
Man, I love Conlith Hill. Phenomenal actor. His portrayal of Varys will forever be one of my all time favorite things about Game of Thrones.

Tell me you noticed he was trying to use the little bird to poison Dany?

And he had a whole pile of those messages about jon in front of him? Ready to send

Why take the rings off though?
I was wondering myself the meaning behind the rings
He knows he's done. Removing valuables before death -- as a sign of acceptance -- is common symbolism in storytelling. You see it a lot in mob movies especially. I don't think it's anything more than that.
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Thanks Joey; I never picked up on that before
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As I watched, I also thought it might be for his little bird--he did talk to her about a reward for the risks she was taking. She might know where to look.
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