HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
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I just keep thinking back to how great episodes 2 & 3 of this season are. Two of the best of the entire series. This show really can work marvelous wonders.
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Its still one of the greatest shows and stories ever created. Becoming one of the greats just makes one ripe to being torn down. Its the nature of the beast.durdencommatyler wrote:I just keep thinking back to how great episodes 2 & 3 of this season are. Two of the best of the entire series. This show really can work marvelous wonders.
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I will say, as much as I've enjoyed this journey, as much as I've loved watching this show, as much as the spectacle of it all remains unrivaled in modern TV history... I'm not sure that, these last two eps aside, I would put this in the top ten achievements in Television storytelling. Maybe. But I don't think so.Strat wrote:Its still one of the greatest shows and stories ever created. Becoming one of the greats just makes one ripe to being torn down. Its the nature of the beast.durdencommatyler wrote:I just keep thinking back to how great episodes 2 & 3 of this season are. Two of the best of the entire series. This show really can work marvelous wonders.
And that's not meant to be a knock on the show. It's achieved so much. But it'll be interesting to see how the living, in-real-time, mythology of the show settles.
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Word.Strat wrote:Its still one of the greatest shows and stories ever created. Becoming one of the greats just makes one ripe to being torn down. Its the nature of the beast.durdencommatyler wrote:I just keep thinking back to how great episodes 2 & 3 of this season are. Two of the best of the entire series. This show really can work marvelous wonders.
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As a non book reader, I'll be able to revisit this show many times over the coming years and learn so much more.durdencommatyler wrote:I will say, as much as I've enjoyed this journey, as much as I've loved watching this show, as much as the spectacle of it all remains unrivaled in modern TV history... I'm not sure that, these last two eps aside, I would put this in the top ten achievements in Television storytelling. Maybe. But I don't think so.Strat wrote:Its still one of the greatest shows and stories ever created. Becoming one of the greats just makes one ripe to being torn down. Its the nature of the beast.durdencommatyler wrote:I just keep thinking back to how great episodes 2 & 3 of this season are. Two of the best of the entire series. This show really can work marvelous wonders.
And that's not meant to be a knock on the show. It's achieved so much. But it'll be interesting to see how the living, in-real-time, mythology of the show settles.
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Just to be clear to everyone reading this thread... my takes here in this thread, and especially the above quoted post... have ZERO to do with the books. When I talk about the show, its successes and failures, and its legacy, I'm only talking about the show on its own terms.Strat wrote:As a non book reader, I'll be able to revisit this show many times over the coming years and learn so much more.durdencommatyler wrote:I will say, as much as I've enjoyed this journey, as much as I've loved watching this show, as much as the spectacle of it all remains unrivaled in modern TV history... I'm not sure that, these last two eps aside, I would put this in the top ten achievements in Television storytelling. Maybe. But I don't think so.Strat wrote:Its still one of the greatest shows and stories ever created. Becoming one of the greats just makes one ripe to being torn down. Its the nature of the beast.durdencommatyler wrote:I just keep thinking back to how great episodes 2 & 3 of this season are. Two of the best of the entire series. This show really can work marvelous wonders.
And that's not meant to be a knock on the show. It's achieved so much. But it'll be interesting to see how the living, in-real-time, mythology of the show settles.
Just wanted to make that explicit.
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% chance there is a satisfying conclusion tonight?durdencommatyler wrote:Just to be clear to everyone reading this thread... my takes here in this thread, and especially the above quoted post... have ZERO to do with the books. When I talk about the show, its successes and failures, and its legacy, I'm only talking about the show on its own terms.Strat wrote:As a non book reader, I'll be able to revisit this show many times over the coming years and learn so much more.durdencommatyler wrote:I will say, as much as I've enjoyed this journey, as much as I've loved watching this show, as much as the spectacle of it all remains unrivaled in modern TV history... I'm not sure that, these last two eps aside, I would put this in the top ten achievements in Television storytelling. Maybe. But I don't think so.Strat wrote:Its still one of the greatest shows and stories ever created. Becoming one of the greats just makes one ripe to being torn down. Its the nature of the beast.durdencommatyler wrote:I just keep thinking back to how great episodes 2 & 3 of this season are. Two of the best of the entire series. This show really can work marvelous wonders.
And that's not meant to be a knock on the show. It's achieved so much. But it'll be interesting to see how the living, in-real-time, mythology of the show settles.
Just wanted to make that explicit.
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Yikes... I'm gonna go... 25%Strat wrote:% chance there is a satisfying conclusion tonight?durdencommatyler wrote:Just to be clear to everyone reading this thread... my takes here in this thread, and especially the above quoted post... have ZERO to do with the books. When I talk about the show, its successes and failures, and its legacy, I'm only talking about the show on its own terms.Strat wrote:As a non book reader, I'll be able to revisit this show many times over the coming years and learn so much more.durdencommatyler wrote:I will say, as much as I've enjoyed this journey, as much as I've loved watching this show, as much as the spectacle of it all remains unrivaled in modern TV history... I'm not sure that, these last two eps aside, I would put this in the top ten achievements in Television storytelling. Maybe. But I don't think so.Strat wrote:Its still one of the greatest shows and stories ever created. Becoming one of the greats just makes one ripe to being torn down. Its the nature of the beast.durdencommatyler wrote:I just keep thinking back to how great episodes 2 & 3 of this season are. Two of the best of the entire series. This show really can work marvelous wonders.
And that's not meant to be a knock on the show. It's achieved so much. But it'll be interesting to see how the living, in-real-time, mythology of the show settles.
Just wanted to make that explicit.
But, we sometimes put too much emphasis on endings. Regardless of how it wraps up, it's been an amazing journey.
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Everybody dies.
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Jon won't die.
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Im just assuming the ending is a wonderful 1 camera shot of drogon flying from the rubble towards the sea. Leaving the world behind. Only at the very last second his wings clip Oceanic air flight 815 sending us into the unknown.durdencommatyler wrote:Jon won't die.
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Okay, that would legit make me happy.Strat wrote:Im just assuming the ending is a wonderful 1 camera shot of drogon flying from the rubble towards the sea. Leaving the world behind. Only at the very last second his wings clip Oceanic air flight 815 sending us into the unknown.durdencommatyler wrote:Jon won't die.
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Joe.
You’re really relegating 8 entire seasons of fantastic writing and tv because you don’t like the last two episodes? Or even seasons?
Pound for pound it’s better than Anything out there or has come in years.
And it will be a long time before we see something so well written and so well made again.
You’re really relegating 8 entire seasons of fantastic writing and tv because you don’t like the last two episodes? Or even seasons?
Pound for pound it’s better than Anything out there or has come in years.
And it will be a long time before we see something so well written and so well made again.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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I still think Breaking Bad is the top.dimejinky99 wrote:Joe.
You’re really relegating 8 entire seasons of fantastic writing and tv because you don’t like the last two episodes? Or even seasons?
Pound for pound it’s better than Anything out there or has come in years.
And it will be a long time before we see something so well written and so well made again.
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You and me both, friend.durdencommatyler wrote:Okay, that would legit make me happy.Strat wrote:Im just assuming the ending is a wonderful 1 camera shot of drogon flying from the rubble towards the sea. Leaving the world behind. Only at the very last second his wings clip Oceanic air flight 815 sending us into the unknown.durdencommatyler wrote:Jon won't die.
ITS A MASHUP!
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Strat wrote:I still think Breaking Bad is the top.dimejinky99 wrote:Joe.
You’re really relegating 8 entire seasons of fantastic writing and tv because you don’t like the last two episodes? Or even seasons?
Pound for pound it’s better than Anything out there or has come in years.
And it will be a long time before we see something so well written and so well made again.
You sick fuck!
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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After tonight, it will be interesting to see where Thrones ends up among my favorites on television
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Well, to your first question, no. Clearly, you're not reading my posts. I've said time and time again that regardless of the last two episodes, the journey has been amazing and the show is an overall major achievement. So, what the fuck are you reading?dimejinky99 wrote:Joe.
You’re really relegating 8 entire seasons of fantastic writing and tv because you don’t like the last two episodes? Or even seasons?
Pound for pound it’s better than Anything out there or has come in years.
And it will be a long time before we see something so well written and so well made again.
It is not better than anything out there or has come in years. As good as it is, I still don't think it's a top 10 of all time show. And that opinion stands aside from what I think of the last couple of episodes. As a spectacle it is unmatched. But there are better TV shows out there.
The production values are outstanding. The overall acting is absolutely among the best I've ever seen from an ensemble in a long, long time. But the writing has always been uneven and disappointing. There have been moments of total brilliance, but the overall it has always been flawed. The fact that the show has maintained the level of quality that it has over the years IN SPITE of the writing is a testament to the level of craft and work that the cast and crew have provided, for sure.