It's HBO, Making You Miserable Again: Chernobyl (May 2019)

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What I do find instructively problematic about this show (other than the laughably slapstick invocations of Lenin or whatever) is how the creator has to keep getting on Twitter to explain to people that this is not a pro-US/anti-Russia show and that all the denialism of the Soviet bureaucracy is supposed to operate as a mirror for Trump/GOP climate denialism/alternative facts/etc. It's such a well-meaning liberal impulse to think that art can operate as a didactic reflector, but none of the Bi_3s of the world watching this are going to rethink their stance on climate change because of this show.
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Mickey wrote:What I do find instructively problematic about this show (other than the laughably slapstick invocations of Lenin or whatever) is how the creator has to keep getting on Twitter to explain to people that this is not a pro-US/anti-Russia show and that all the denialism of the Soviet bureaucracy is supposed to operate as a mirror for Trump/GOP climate denialism/alternative facts/etc. It's such a well-meaning liberal impulse to think that art can operate as a didactic reflector, but none of the Bi_3s of the world watching this are going to rethink their stance on climate change because of this show.
Don't know for sure, but I feel that it's possible that a lot of it is pushback on people who are viewing/framing the show in this fashion. I've certainly seen people tweeting that have taken that perspective on it.
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Mickey wrote:What I do find instructively problematic about this show (other than the laughably slapstick invocations of Lenin or whatever) is how the creator has to keep getting on Twitter to explain to people that this is not a pro-US/anti-Russia show and that all the denialism of the Soviet bureaucracy is supposed to operate as a mirror for Trump/GOP climate denialism/alternative facts/etc. It's such a well-meaning liberal impulse to think that art can operate as a didactic reflector, but none of the Bi_3s of the world watching this are going to rethink their stance on climate change because of this show.
Don't know for sure, but I feel that it's possible that a lot of it is pushback on people who are viewing/framing the show in this fashion. I've certainly seen people tweeting that have taken that perspective on it.

Now what the fuck does this have to with my view on climate change?
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Biff Pocoroba wrote:HBO hasn't put the episodes all On Demand but they're running the series next weekend. I'll have to add to my dvr so I can watch them the following week.
They're on HBO go which you can use with your cable credentials.
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Started this last night. Wife fell asleep 20 minutes in. I'll check back with you all in two weeks when we finish it.
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Mickey wrote:What I do find instructively problematic about this show (other than the laughably slapstick invocations of Lenin or whatever) is how the creator has to keep getting on Twitter to explain to people that this is not a pro-US/anti-Russia show and that all the denialism of the Soviet bureaucracy is supposed to operate as a mirror for Trump/GOP climate denialism/alternative facts/etc. It's such a well-meaning liberal impulse to think that art can operate as a didactic reflector, but none of the Bi_3s of the world watching this are going to rethink their stance on climate change because of this show.
You could just, I don’t know, not go on Twitter. Can’t speak for everyone but my life is certainly much better since I made that choice.
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Twitter fucking sucks.

Chernobyl on the other hand was great. Finally finished it last night.
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That he desires to get on Twitter in order to correct the record on the essential political implication of his show means that his show lacks, either in part or in full, the implications he thinks it has. This has nothing to do with Twitter as a medium.
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Speaking of twitter and Chernobyl...
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“One theory holds that Americans had infiltrated the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and many historians do not deny that, on the day of the explosion, an agent of the enemy’s intelligence services was present at the station,”
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Why is he apologizing to communists instead of simply hurling them from helicopters?
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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I dont really care bout this one, and everyone is like fuuuuck dude you havent seen Chernobyl ???? why??

Its getting tiresome.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:I dont really care bout this one, and everyone is like fuuuuck dude you havent seen Chernobyl ???? why??

Its getting tiresome.
Have you watched it yet? If nothing else, the set designs are some of the best I've ever seen. The scale of what they've brought to the screen is really something else.
I havent nor i feel like it.
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tragabigzanda wrote:Ep 4 is brutal.

We’ve settled into a steady beer-and-chaser routine of Chernobyl/Conan Without Borders.
But beer is the chaser.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Jesus, ep 3 sure is a real bucket of laughs, huh?

What a fucking bummer.

I can't even imagine...
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